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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Oh, I see. So the problem is that we've come to accept comedies as valid instructional/educational delivery methods.

Got it.



People think the Daily Show is real news...not surprised they think guns can go off just putting it on a table or dropping it down a flight of stairs.

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In general I subscribe to FPS Russia's opinions on open carry vs conceal carry.



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Open carry makes people uncomfortable because it reminds them of their own mortality. They see the gun, they know that person can end their existence in a few seconds if they feel like it. Of course, the kind of person that would do that is just going to ignore gun control laws anyway, but at least if you don't have to see the gun, you don't have to be reminded of this fact constantly.

In addition, it starts making one wonder exactly what this guy feels the need to defend himself from, and how they personally are powerless against it. IMHO, the "only a violent/immoral person would carry a gun" is actually a defense mechanism so they don't have to think about this. "There's nothing to worry about, that guy is just paranoid."


You've got it backwards. The "only a violent person/that guy is paranoid" thing is what drives discomfort at seeing a gun, plus years and years of it being ingrained that only uniformed people carry them openly. Even plainclothes cops don't carry openly.

As for reminding them of their own mortality, let's stay away from the amateur psychoanalysis.

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Kaffis, I don't know why you're making it seem like these things only happen in comedy movies. That's not the case.
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Aizle wrote:
YT tags don't seem to be working.

Read the sticky thread in, like, every forum.

Lenas, only True Lies has, thus far, been mentioned as an example of the sorts of things that were described. It was the only one I could come up with on my own, too. If it's as widespread and common as has been implied, a few more examples should be readily available, right?

Maybe I just don't watch the "right" movies.

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Also, any episode of Andy Griffin where Barney actually puts his bullet in his gun.

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Meh, I'm not sure I buy the movies make guns seem unsafe argument from a handling perspective.

For every example listed here you have a **** ton of serious action adventure films where firearms never go off unless the trigger is pulled.

About the only thing that I will perhaps agree with is that Hollywood does universally make firearms appear more powerful than they really are.

Bullets will ignite a fuel tank and blow up a car, a single shot will knock back a person 10 feet, etc.
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Hollywood also reinforces the magic ricochet myths, and the idea that it's somehow easy to hit a moving target while you're moving using a rifle one-handed.

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Hollywood also reinforces the magic ricochet myths, and the idea that it's somehow easy to hit a moving target while you're moving using a rifle one-handed.


This.

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Talya wrote:
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... liableGuns

Okay, so your defense of my "Oh, so we're including comedies? Well, the thing that's wrong with a world that takes life lessons from modern comedies isn't the treatment of guns in film, it's the populace that considers comedy credible." includes, as the top entries:

Airheads, Boondock Saints, True Lies, Back to the Future (which is commented on being a Truth in Television example since at the time most AK ammo was military surplus), The Producers, Kelley's Heroes...

And then several "averted" notations along with historically accurate instances like Unforgiven and The Untouchables' Tommy gun...

Hi, thanks for proving my point.

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DFK! wrote:
Hollywood also reinforces the magic ricochet myths, and the idea that it's somehow easy to hit a moving target while you're moving using a rifle one-handed.


Thanks now I'm having Monty flashbacks....

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