TheRiov wrote:
Give me a break. I made one comment that a few individuals took offense to and chose to launch a series of attacks leveled at me directly. I make a nice scapegoat, but if people had just let the comment go it would have died there and I wouldn't have felt obligated to go on the defensive.
No, you did NOT make one comment. You came in here talking about how you were 'surprised at the attitudes' of the 'proclaimed' Christians for not 'suggesting forgiveness'.
Your comment didn't address the actual merits of any of the suggestions made, at all, and you even
admitted in the next line
that you didn't think the situation even necessarily warranted forgiveness.TheRiov wrote:
Not that I think this situation necessarily warrants it. Frankly outside oonagh and foamy, none of us know enough of the nuance to suggest a course of action.
In other words, you made it perfectly clear that for no reason anyone here could be aware of, you were taking issue not with what people were saying to Foamy because there was anything
actually wrong with it, but rather, that you were taking issue with the simple fact that Christians here weren't 'suggesting forgiveness' despite:
A) the fact that you don't think there's enough information to make
any suggestion,
B) the fact that you did not actually take issue with the suggestions that
had been made and,
C) the fact that you have tried to distill forgiveness down to your impression of what the word means rather than actually understand its theological meaning and place in Christianity.
In point of fact, this left you wide open to talk some trash about how the Christians were trying to push their religious views on if anyone
had suggested it, because clearly the suggestion that Foamy just forgive his parents, go on as if nothing happened would be wildly unhelpful. Had anyone done that, you would have actually been right, but it turns out that because forgiveness is a complex theological concept, intended to allow real reconciliation rather than whatever oversimplified caricature of it you are imagining, no one did that.
Of course, this could have been left at that point because Rori wrote an excellent explanation for you, and no one else really told you anything other than that you were obviously being a dick. Had you left it at that, your claim of having made 'one comment' might be accurate. Instead, you decided to go into this rant about your family's supposed misdeeds and wrapped it up with your exasperation at 'Christian hypocrisy'. It wasn't anyone else that didn't 'let it go'; it was you coming back with this rant where you decide to invent a reason to take issue with the Christians here because you're tired of putting up with your family for the holiday.
In other words, you came in here and started taking issue with what the Christians were saying, not because it was bad, offensive, unhelpful to Foamy, or off-topic, but instead claimed it was hypocrisy because it didn't match
your made-up idea of what forgiveness means in Christianity and how it would pertain to the situation. Somehow, you seem to think that this is 'on topic', even though Foamy's family trouble has been ongoing and there was nothing wrong with what was suggested to him.
Finally, if your initial comment was, indeed, just in passing, that doesn't make things any better. Taking a drive-by **** on other people's beliefs by distorting them and then ***** about the "attitudes" of those people because they aren't adhereing to the distortion is not any better than taking that same **** by typing some long post about it. It makes you look like a total douche to complain people are not following their professed beliefs and then blatantly revealing you don't understand the beliefs well enough to know if they are or not.
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