The Glade 4.0

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Whenever you feel like a poster, the media, or anybody else is failing to use their logic, critical thinking, and rhetorical skills properly, come use this handy guide.

Spoilered for size.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Also,

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

And now, with that handy chart, you can disprove every argument in the history of mankind by pointing to a logical fallacy.

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That will at least be better than looking at a thread and going "Nu-uh!"

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Often true. Sadly we don't use logic well.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Including the makers of that chart. While their definitions are correct, some of their examples are horrendously bad.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I figured that was on purpose, DE.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Not to mention, putting such information in a giant image that no one can effectively read.

Logical Fallacies are useful to know, but not all are meant for every situation.

If we're discussing physics, and I decide an actual physicist is likely to be correct while Lenas the web-designer is likely to be wrong, solely because of credentials, while this is an appeal to authority, it is simply playing the odds. Subject matter experts arguments count for more than those in other fields. The "appeal to authority" fallacy is there for when academic types who actually have the understanding of the subject matter argue things, to prevent them from falling back on those who have gone before, and examine an issue anew.

Similarly, "Appeal to probability."
If something is 99.999999% likely to have happened, lacking any other specific evidence to the contrary, it is best to assume it has happened, while still recognizing the slim possibility that it has not. The odds actually do matter.

There are a bunch of fallacies on that chart that are similarly problematic for a regular discussion.

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The logical fallacy is itself a logical fallacy. It is important to recognize that logical fallacies do not exist for the uneducated, unwashed masses discussing stuff they don't know much about. For instance, the appeal to authority does not exist so that Talya can cite Richard Feynman, and Diamondeye can say, "Nuh uh! That's an appeal to authority." Rather, it exists for when Richard Owen attempted to cite his own authority as a member of the Royal Society Council to argue against his opponents.

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An Appeal to Authority is only a logical fallacy when the person in question isn't really an authority, or when the insistence that the "authority's" conclusion must be true based solely on the credentials of said person.



Similarly, an appeal to probability is only a logical fallacy when there is insistence that the probable event will, or must, occur based on the probability alone.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Some of these are a little weird.

Lying is not really a logical fallacy, but I guess I can see why it was included.

Their description of "appeal to ridicule" describes a logical argument.

And "Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right?" How the hell is that a logical fallacy? That logical fallacy sounds to me like an appeal to popular belief. =P