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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:33 pm 
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I wish I had a 3d printer.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27 ... -of-april/

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3D gun printing possible "by the end of April"


By Gregory Wallace

Depending on your view of gun rights, Cody Wilson is either a genius or an evil genius.

The Texas law student leads Defense Distributed and its Wiki Weapons Project, with the goal to “create the world’s first 100% 3D printable gun” and to make those plans “freely available.”

“The assumption is one day the technology will become more ubiquitous and widespread,” Wilson said Wednesday on CNN’s “The Lead with Jake Tapper.”

“It will fall in price, and materials will be developed in a better place than they are now, so yes, if you were to have one in your home and you have the gun file, you can just click print and have the gun.”

That computer file would have the instructions for a 3D printer to manufacture gun parts or an entire gun in your home. And if you think 3D printers are the stuff of science fiction and the future, they were the standout products at the Consumer Electronics Show earlier this year.

“It’s still in its infancy,” Wilson said, but maturity doesn’t take long to follow, he added.

“Well to have a printable gun – it’s my intention to have that done by the end of this month and we’re at the end of March now so it’s my intention to have it done by April,” he said.

Now he finds himself at the crossroads between a developing technology and concerns over gun violence. To some, he’s a pioneer; to others, such as those at Wired Magazine, he’s one of the world’s 15 most dangerous people, right up there, they say, with the president of Syria and an Afghan warlord.

Wilson’s effort drew attention around the time of the December shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, when his group posted online a video of an AR-15 firearm that included 3D-printed parts. The gun fired six rounds before malfunctioning but demonstrated that such weapons are quickly becoming a reality.

Defense Distributed posted 3D printer instructions to the online database Makerbot, but the site pulled down those plans and the group said it would pursue other distribution methods.

Asked how he would feel if a mentally unbalanced person or a child printed a gun using his plans and killed, Wilson replied: “We’ll see how I feel in the eventuality that that happens.

“I’m willing to hold out some judgment. I don’t know how I’ll feel but I do believe in equality of access to quality production. I think this is something worth doing,” he said. “And I don’t think that we can collectively make a decision to withhold things from people before they do anything wrong.”

To restrict access to this technology would be government going too far, he said.

“When guns become digitized what would you have to do to stop people from getting this?” he asked. “Invade their civil liberties? Step on their internet? These are intolerable.”

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In before "THERE OUGHTTA BE A LAW!"..:p


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In before "THERE OUGHTTA BE A LAW!"..:p



I can sense the libs coming up with reasons to ban this already.

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How would this actually... you know, work?

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Diamondeye wrote:
How would this actually... you know, work?

In what sense? You download the files, order a bunch of the 3d printing material, and start printing out gun parts, one by one. The resolution on 3d printers isn't amazing, so there'd be a good amount of sanding and filing, I'm sure.

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Diamondeye wrote:
How would this actually... you know, work?


Science!

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
How would this actually... you know, work?

In what sense? You download the files, order a bunch of the 3d printing material, and start printing out gun parts, one by one. The resolution on 3d printers isn't amazing, so there'd be a good amount of sanding and filing, I'm sure.


You'd print gun parts made out of paper? Or can this thing actually "print" metal pieces? If so, how?

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Diamondeye wrote:
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Diamondeye wrote:
How would this actually... you know, work?

In what sense? You download the files, order a bunch of the 3d printing material, and start printing out gun parts, one by one. The resolution on 3d printers isn't amazing, so there'd be a good amount of sanding and filing, I'm sure.


You'd print gun parts made out of paper? Or can this thing actually "print" metal pieces? If so, how?


Its polymer powder. Heated and cast with... like science stuff. So you end up with plastic resin stuff.

Or metals. Wow. I didn't know that part. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing

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Surgery recently done. http://singularityhub.com/2013/03/28/pa ... -of-skull/

guns. http://uk.reuters.com/video/2013/03/01/ ... =241403287


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This is a 3D printer. This image has a frame of reference in the form of a lady. I assume she's a regular size lady, and not a midget.
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It works in a manner the inverse of a regular machining process. Rather than starting with a big block of something, and then cutting pieces away, it starts with a large chamber of nothing, and then begins adding bits. I don't know about the model seen in this image (model of printer, not model of lady), but there exist 3D printers to work with just about any durable (and some not-so-durable) material. Metal, plastic, ceramic ... candy.

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Diamondeye wrote:
How would this actually... you know, work?




Bioprinting is also a 'thing' (using actual human cells)

Hang around to the end to see a guy printing an AR15 receiver.


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I've seen models about 4.5 feet tall


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Nitefox wrote:
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In before "THERE OUGHTTA BE A LAW!"..:p


I can sense the libs coming up with reasons to ban this already.


So I'm honestly torn on this topic, but serious question.

Do you really feel there is no concern with anyone with a moderate amount of money, being able to print guns and hand/sell them to anyone they want?


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The short answer, Aizle, is "No." The longer answer, Aizle, is also, oddly enough, "No."
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Aizle wrote:
Do you really feel there is no concern with anyone with a moderate amount of money, being able to print guns and hand/sell them to anyone they want?


I actually think this could be a very a good thing.

You get a large enough group of people feeling angry enough about an issue, and suddenly they're a militia.

Break up this protest, jackasses!

The more power is in the hands of individuals, the less concentrated the power is in government, the better for everybody.

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I'd be curious to understand your reasoning behind the answer Khross.


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"Desktop sized" already exists. I've been considering acquiring one.

Approximately $1200-$2000 for moderate quality.

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Aizle wrote:
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In before "THERE OUGHTTA BE A LAW!"..:p


I can sense the libs coming up with reasons to ban this already.


So I'm honestly torn on this topic, but serious question.

Do you really feel there is no concern with anyone with a moderate amount of money, being able to print guns and hand/sell them to anyone they want?


Why is this even an issue? This individual would be a gun manufacturer and subject to all appropriate laws. What's the problem?


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There are enough laws. There are laws against killing people with guns, there are rules and regulations covering the manufacture and sale of guns.

We don't need more laws.


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These are deadly weapons, too. They're responsible for far more deaths than guns.

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Well, I'll be dogged. I never had any idea a 3D printer could do that; I thought it was just a fancy printer. That's somthing else.

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Don't worry, it took me a while to figure out what the **** people were talking about, too.

The name is sort of a misnomer. When most people think of printing, they think of the Gutenberg printing press. What they actually mean today is taking a computer image and turning it into a physical object. For the longest time, the only way to do that was to put a two dimensional image onto a sheet of paper.

Then, we discovered how to make 3D models on a computer. What this device is doing is letting you make a 3D model in a program like Auto-CAD, hit "print" and have that object made. You put the material you want that object to be made out of into the printer just like you would load paper into a tray. It's probably helpful to think of a 3D printer as a lathe or a mill instead of a printer. (In that it's a thing that builds actual objects, rather than a thing that slaps ink on paper.)

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