The Glade 4.0

So racism is an acceptable way to fight racism?

Comparisons of prevalence doesn't equate to claims of non-existence.

me: I know a girl from texas that moved to Toronto. She's a white redhead. She said that racism isn't overt...it isn't even intentional, but it's still alive and well in the south in subtle ways that simply don't exist in Toronto. Her best friend in Toronto is a jamaican girl. Nobody even thinks about it. Skin color here is as significant as hair color.
me: in Texas, the two skin colors segregate themselves. People simply do not hang out like that. It's an exception when they do
Khross: Skin Color is the South would be about that significant were it not for the NAACP and Jesse Jackson
me:You know, I don't disagree. American racial politics seem to be mostly pushed from the black side. However, don't you see the irony in saying "We're not racist here in the south. It's those niggers! They're the racist ones"? You gotta see the humor there. (I know, you didn't say exactly that.)
Khross: That's exactly what I said.
me: heh, okay nevermind
me: LOL i love this conversation
Khross: Seriously, If I was post to what I said to you on the Glade, we would have a 3 month thread
me: seriously. That was awesome
Khross: about how I said
me: i'm still laughing
Khross: Exactly. what you translated that to...You can laugh, it was supposed to be funny

me: blacks in Canada are not a separate culture. They are in the USA.
Khross: Ah ha. Yes, yes, they are.
me: they're a counterculture.
Khross: Nope, parallel culture
me: Now, there are plenty of first generation immigrants in canada that are black
Khross: but that's getting into some peculiarly American ethnographic issues.
me: we have huge caribbean cultures in toronto, but their children? they're canadian. Same as everyone else. You can't tell their skin color by how they talk, or their religion, or the street that they live on.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

Khross: I hate to say it, but you're making a strawman argument. You're attempting to set up Aizles post as some kind of suggestion that we shouldn't allow this type of behavior.

He finds it despicable.
You find it despicable.

Nowhere do I see anyone suggesting, however, that we need to legislate it and control behavior the way you are suggesting. Aizle's post is to show that idea racism is still unacceptably common in places.

Such activity would not be tolerated here. I'm not talking about the law getting involved, I'm talking about by the people around them. Racism exists everywhere, but it's not as prevalent everywhere. For racism to exist here, it needs to be underground. The stigma of being known to be a racist is such that you'd be a complete pariah for even suggesting a segregated prom. The fact that people accept and enforce it in large enough numbers to make it policy, even at one school in one small town in ****, Georgia, here in 2013, is actually rather shocking.

Free association? Sure. But free expresssion - where's the outrage from the people around them? Where's the social stigmatism of promoting racism? Why is it socially acceptable to be a racist in some parts of America? (And I'm including racism by black people against whites, there. All racism is the same.)

City Recruits Minority Lifeguards Even if They Can’t Swim


In a staggering case of affirmative action gone wild, officials in a major U.S. city are actually recruiting minorities to be lifeguards at public pools even if they’re not good swimmers. It’s all in the name of diversity.

You can’t make this stuff up. It’s a real-life story out of Phoenix, the capitol of Arizona and the nation’s sixth-largest city. It has more than 1.4 million residents and, among its official mottos is “value and respect” of diversity. This means “more than gender and race,” according to the city’s official website. It also encompasses “uniqueness and individuality” and embracing differences. “We put this belief into action to provide effective services to our diverse community.”

Evidently officials are willing to compromise those “effective services” at 29 public swimming pools spread throughout the city. To diversify the lifeguard force, Phoenix will spend thousands of dollars to recruit minorities even if they’re not strong swimmers, according to an official quoted in a news report. Blacks, Latinos and Asians who may not necessarily qualify can still get hired, says the city official who adds that “we will work with you in your swimming abilities.”

There’s a good reason the city is hiring lifeguards that can’t swim. Public pools are largely used by Latino and African-American kids, but most of the lifeguards are white and this creates a huge problem. “The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white and we don’t like that,” says a Phoenix official quoted in the story. She added that “the kids don’t relate; there’s language issues.”

How did it ever come to this? Competitive swimming is a sport dominated by whites. In fact, studies have found that blacks and Hispanics have lower swimming proficiency compared to whites. In Phoenix public pool lifeguards have traditionally come from “more affluent parts of town” where schools have swim teams. That means virtually no minorities, so the city launched this special program to recruit some.

Though this is a local effort in one city, it’s also part of a national trend to boost the minority workforce at whatever cost. Under President Obama we have seen a lot of this at the federal level through a variety of specially-designed government programs that give ethnic minorities special treatment at all federal agencies as well as medical and agricultural fields, among others.

Earlier this year the administration made history by hiring the government’s first “Chief Officer for Scientific Workforce Diversity” to mastermind a multi-million-dollar effort that boosts the number of minorities in biomedical research and slashes discrimination in the federal grant process. The effort was initially launched last year after a government-sanctioned study uncovered a “disturbing and disheartening” lack of racial diversity in the field.

efore that the administration created a new office help build a “diverse and inclusive workforce” at all federal agencies and Obama appointed a “Diversity Czar” at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to help advance the goal of greater inclusion and diversity in government programs. Who could forget the race and gender employment quotas required at private financial institutions under Obama’s financial reform measure (known as the Dodd-Frank bill) to overhaul Wall Street? It’s all in the name of diversity.

Taskiss, your Nobel prize question has nothing to do with American racism because they're awarded by Scandinavian committees.

Racism exists everywhere, but it's not as prevalent everywhere

I wonder how many of our lily-white libs would let there kids swim here.


http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/ ... cant-swim/

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

Morgan Freeman Pays For Integrated Prom In New Documentary

PARK CITY, Utah — Morgan Freeman was disappointed to learn that his local high school in Charleston, Miss., still held separate proms, one for black students, one for white. So he offered to pay for a single prom that both could attend.

That was 1997. It took 11 years for the school to take Freeman up on his offer.

Director Paul Saltzman's "Prom Night in Mississippi," premiering Saturday as part of the world documentary competition at the Sundance Film Festival, chronicles the growing pains Charleston went through last year as the community prepared for its first racially integrated senior prom.

The move came 54 years after the U.S. Supreme Court's Brown vs. Board of Education case that struck down school segregation and more than 30 years after black students began attending Charleston High School, which previously had been all-white.

Freeman learned about the separate proms while talking with the senior class in 1997. Students were willing when Freeman said he would pay for an integrated prom, but the school board and parents ignored his offer.

"It's kind of disheartening," Freeman said. "In the little town we live in _ this is a really small town _ I don't know how you can live in such a small place and try to be separate."

Toronto filmmaker Saltzman met Freeman in 2006 on a return visit to Mississippi, where he had worked for a couple of months doing voter registration during the civil rights movement in the mid-1960s. Saltzman later interviewed Freeman for another documentary he's working on about his journey back to the South.

Once he learned of Freeman's offer to desegregate Charleston's proms, Saltzman felt there was another film to be told.

"I said to him without thinking, `Is the offer still good?' And he was a little taken aback, and he went, `Oh, OK,'" Saltzman said. "I thought, if you're willing to put the offer back on the table and we follow that, it's a story about young people and racial attitudes that hopefully would make other young people walk out of a darkened theater and think about their own attitudes and their own beliefs."

With permission from school officials, Saltzman filmed Freeman as he made the initial pitch to the administration and met with the senior class, which greeted the proposal enthusiastically.

Saltzman and his wife, producer Patricia Aquino, spent about four months filming in Charleston during the buildup to the prom, interviewing students, sitting in on planning meetings and chatting up the handful of parents willing to talk.

Many adults refused to be interviewed, and the filmmakers soon learned that amid preparations for the integrated prom, a separate, white-only prom had been organized.

The heart of the film is candid interviews with black and white Charleston students, who speak passionately about the racism that lingers in their town. The filmmakers follow a core of students, among them a black boy and white girl who date despite her father's objections, a white couple whose friendship with a black youth causes them grief, and a black girl who suspects racism cost her the class valedictorian honor.

Saltzman was not allowed to film the white prom, which he estimates a couple of dozen students attended. The integrated prom was far larger and stands as a hopeful climax to the film as black and white students mingle exuberantly.

Freeman said the prom cost him about $17,000, which he said was "money very well spent" that hopefully will lead to integrated proms from now on.

"The kids are not going to want to go backwards," Freeman said. "They've got their toe in the water, and the water's warm."

This. Frankly the example in the article would create howls of outrage in pretty much most every part of the northern US and culturally would not be tolerated.