The Glade 4.0

Definitely not safe for work, but hilarious...



Edit: Oh, and in case you are worried, not really any spoilers for GoT.

I've had that conversation, with less rage and profanity.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

So what? The people who complain most about TV series movies and the like derived from books are ones who are fanatical about what's wrong with the motion picture versions. So if I'm enjoying a series of TV shows or movies (LOTR comes to mind) why ruin it.

I especially don't understand the rage of book fans against motion picture fans.

Maybe someday Salvatore or Weber will loose their minds and I will.

#tomwho

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Because the johnny-come-latelies who've only watched the movie/series couldn't be bothered to use their brains, sometimes for instance in the case of LOTR for around 75 years, and now want to go on and on about this incredible thing they've "discovered" and these are the same people that didn't want to exert themselves to have any interest in it when the conversation was in the other direction like, 10 years ago, so they can take all their spoon-fed thoughts and ideas, write them down on paper, roll it up real tight, and shove it up their asses.

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The books are great and everything, but not everyone can take the time to read them. I spent a few days reading book 3 in my free time, got through probably 10 chapters, and everything I read was surpassed in the first damn episode. What a stupid notion it is that you're not allowed to be enthusiastic about something because it was written in a book that a fraction of its current fandom read before it was written in a script and given life.

God damn literary hipsters.

A Storm of Swords was published November 2000 in the US.
Season 3 premiered March 31, 2013.

I am unsurprised that you can't read a book in a few days, but you can't read a book in 12 and a half years? Your plight, it does not move me.

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I didn't know about the series at all until the first season started airing. I ordered the first four books after watching three episodes, getting through season 1 pretty much side by side with the book, and finishing book two somewhere around its middle episode. Life happens, I didn't have an opportunity to read book 3 until much later, and now I'm behind. Any attempt to catch up is pretty much hopeless.

Remember kids, if you didn't discover something at the exact same time as someone else, you're not allowed to be enthusiastic about it. Also your life has no meaning and you should just die.

It doesn't have to be the exact same time, but 12 years is a bit on the long side, unless you discover it when you're 12 years old. Some allowances are made for people who weren't alive.

At this point, I'd like to offer up Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen, a series in 10 books, each one anywhere from ~800-1300 pages, the first drops you in in media res, and it takes at least a book and a half to figure out what's actually going on. If you are incapable of reading A Song of Ice and Fire, you'll be even more incapable of reading this.

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I should note that I wasn't exactly interested in a mature fantasy epic when I was 14 years old.

I'm not sure how you think that helps your case.

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Trying to highlight that just because something has existed for longer than someone has been interested in it doesn't diminish their enthusiasm toward it or coincide with their ability to digest it.

I'm pointing out that to me, ASoIF has only existed for two years. In that time I've read two books, part of the third, and given probably 50 hours of my time to watching and re-watching the show to help others get interested. You don't fault a third grader for not having read the Bible just because it's been around for 2,000 years and he's had 4 years to read it.

I look at the video fans as possible converts to the usually superior books. I realize only a small percentage of them will take the time to read the books, but some will. Being a missionary for literacy is a lonely road sometimes.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

So in two years, you've managed to read two and a fraction books. Of something you are purportedly enthusiastic about. That would actually seem to me that you aren't that enthusiastic. That you just want to be fed somebody else's view of the story.

Oh, and once your third grader hits about 14-15 and starts evangelizing because he watched The Ten Commandments, you certainly do fault him.

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Having suffered though the reading of LotR (twice, actually), I just have to say, while they weren't perfect...


...the movies were way better.

Now, is that more or less irritating than people who have never read the books?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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You assume ASoIF is the only thing I read or the only thing I'm enthusiastic about, wrong in either case. The story is great but I know very well that I have a long time to finish it. I'd rather not be in my wife's shoes right now, knowing everything that's going to happen and having nothing to look forward to until GRRM gets off his *** and finishes the last two books.

I share Taly's opinion on LoTR. The books were mostly slow and longer than they needed to be. The movies were much better and I wouldn't recommend that anyone read them over watch them. My opinion on ASoIF is the opposite; I enjoy the books and I would like to dedicate more time to going through them. Watching the first two seasons and having those minor details that made scenes or characters more fleshed out was a great experience. Unfortunately being a newlywed with around-the-house projects and work aside from that, I only have time to dedicate to the show.



Great, so give me four or five years to finish the books. That is, if the books are finished by then.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and to express it. I disagree, but agree the movies were damn good.

There was no elven army at Helm's Deep.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Wow...so are you trying to read the books current with the season? That takes some will power. I read all five in about four months.

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It's not intentional, but that's how season 1 and the beginning of season 2 went. Clash of Kings I had finished by the second mid-season. I had started on book 3 but got caught up in getting married, etc. so I lost track of it, now I'm behind. I just recognize that the books wont be done for a long time and the show has another season before ASoS is finished, so it was hard to stay motivated in the face of a 425,000 word count. I'm a pretty slow reader. Comes in handy when I'm learning a new programming language, not so much when I'm trudging through a huge series.

I have a busy life. Prior to LOTR coming out the books were never presented to me in a way that made reading four rather thick books interesting. However six three hour movies especially with trailers to peek my interest, seems a lot more digestible.
Game of thrones is/was on my yeah I really need to read that list but with weber, Salavatore, Abnett and Butcher putting out books on an annual (or quicker) basis it puts a strain on my logistical, financial and chronological resources. That doesn't include non series recommendations and discoveries that are easier to digest. For example rather than grabbing another Butcher or Abnett I've got a certain someone's ebook. Someday I may even be wwwwwwwlttp with Eye of the World.

Why does this make me a bad person?

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Also aside from "it's not in the book *twitch* "what's wrong with elves at Helm's Deep?

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Peter Jackson did something Tolkien never could accomplish: Make Lord of the Rings interesting. Middle Earth was great, and it set basic template for just about every fantasy world I've ever enjoyed in a role-playing game, but Lord of the Rings was a boring slog.

Quite frankly, the Game of Thrones TV show is a good thing. Now, when Martin dies before finishing the novels, there's a whole team of writers that can wrap up the story. We won't have to have some new author come in to finish the last book, only to find out that the last book is actually going to be three books.

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The elves were withdrawing from Middle Earth, the only one who stayed behind was Arwen. Even Legolas planned to join them on the ships to the West. To send a contingent to conceivably throw away their lives in the battle was more than just a gesture of loyalty to the allies, it was a major schism, a rebellion against the leaders of the Elven race. It would make the survivors of such a rebellion outcast from the Elves and disrupt the politics of the fading alliance. Also, while the riders did arrive, it was the footmen led by Erkenbrand not the Riders who broke the Orcs.

Yes, the movies were dang good. Some of the changes made by Jackson confused me and in other places annoyed me. Yes, I'm one of those.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

TRUTH!

Well, Fellowship and Return were very good. The Hobbit was a horrible read, it took all I had to finish it. I have read Two Towers once, two other attempts have been crushed.

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Raell Kromwell

Actually, this isn't quite accurate. Elrohir and Elladan fought at Pelennor Fields.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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