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That wouldn't be an automobile/bicycle collision, though, would it?

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They might, but is that caused by the cyclist, or by poor judgement on the part of the driver?

(Answer- it's different for each accident)

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I don't agree with that at all.

That would be far more dangerous. Children, dogs, strollers, jackasses not pulling all the way into their driveways, utility poles, fire hydrants, etc.

Yeah, that's a bit of a conundrum. I tend to agree bikes should not be on sidewalks.

Bikes should not be using motor-traffic lanes either. Dedicated bicycle lanes should be mandatory. Under no circumstance should a bicycle ever be holding up traffic. If you can't travel at the speed limit, you shouldn't be blocking vehicles that can.

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And in the reality that they don't actually exist everywhere?

Tie balloons to it and float the eff away. NMP. As a parent do you make your kids ride their bikes in the road? Do you think 6 year olds should be on bikes in traffic? This argument is retarded.

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A 6yo probably shouldn't be outside on a bike without parental supervision of some sort. Your argument is asinine.

There's nothing wrong with an adult judging his own risk and using the roads the way they are lawfully allowed.

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Holy shitsnacks!

No, because it's not safe due to selfish morons.

Who's selfish? You literally want one person to be able to hold up thousands at a time by driving a vehicle that is not capable of going the speed of traffic on a road. I'm sorry, but you're ascribing selfishness to the wrong people.

Roads exist for fast travel. If you're going to let bikes hog a car lane and block traffic, you might as well eliminate cars, because you're bringing every other vehicle down to the bike's level. At the very least, bikes should have to hug the right side of the road as tightly as possible, and attempt to get out of the way when cars are behind them.

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Mixed use roads exist for mixed use. They are paid for and operated by the local governments. THEY (not you) determine why they exist.

Further, bikes don't cause (typically) much delays. They stay to the right and people can pass them. The only delay I've ever experienced is when I'm following them over a blind hill and am not comfortable passing. A minute or two later - zoom zoom.

If only that were the case.... so many like to ride in the middle of the road, doing 1/3rd the posted speed limit on a busy road and creating a mile-long backup behind them.

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In many locations, roads are the only public thoroughfares. If you want to get somewhere, your only options are taking roads or trespassing on private property. Everyone has a right to travel, not just those with motor vehicles, so we must accommodate many different kinds of traffic on these roads. Pedestrians, bikes, farm vehicles, cars, horse drawn carriages, etc.

Now, I can see where exceptions could be made in certain cases, like on limited-access highways or in urban areas where there are alternative routes and methods of travel. But how can you forbid all non-motor vehicle traffic on roads? For those of you who are against bikes on roads, are you against pedestrians too?

This has happened to me exactly once in 22 years of driving, and it involved a large touring group of cyclists, not a couple of guys out for a ride. However, I have, on multiple occasions, been stuck in a long line behind farm vehicles, construction vehicles, wide load trucks, leaf peepers, "Sunday drivers", old lady Henderson, people on horseback, and (once) a flock of sheep. Maybe I've been lucky, but cyclists have just never posed much of a problem in my experience.

Oh hell yeah. **** those ****. Pedestrians are annoying no matter the mode of transportation I choose. Especially the ones that choose the saunter as the most efficient mode of travel. Or the ones that are so wrapped up in whatever music that is being blasted into their tympanic membranes that they can't hold a consistent line and meander all over the goddamn MUP.

Sounds a bit hypocritical, but it really isn't. When I'm a pedestrian, I tend to move more quickly out of the way of traffic, allow cars to go ahead of me in parking lots, etc. I also pay attention to my surroundings.. something that 90% of the rest of the goddamn population doesn't do. (That number may be higher, but I'm in a generous mood).

For me, it all comes down to this: "Don't be a twatwaffle."

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Holy shitsnacks!

Ah, yeah, no.

It would be hypocritical if I did the things that I get mad about.

I don't do those things, therefore, not.

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When I am a pedestrian I 1) walk on the right of the walkway/path/sidewalk/etc just as if I was driving a car and 2) look both ways before crossing a street in the crosswalk, with or without lights (I always wait for my green light of course).

When walking in the park, I really hate bicyclists because they never pass on the left as they should! We always walk to the right of the path and are almost always nearly ran into by the bicyclists that don't know which side to pass on! It's the same as driving a car, dumbass!! Pass on the left and watch for oncoming traffic before preceding!

As a driver I tend to keep a close eye out for motorcycles and bicycles. We have a lot of bike lanes in the areas I drive in, so not a lot of problems there, for the most part.

What I do have a problem with is the bicyclists that are bound and determined to ride their bikes on a narrow two-way road with NO bike lanes, which is very curvy and not very safe for bikes. When my hubby and I are heading out to one of the local reservoirs to go fishing, we always encounter bicyclists riding on the very narrow, no bike lanes, winding roads on the way to the reservoirs. It is NOT safe for bicyclists on those roads, yet there they always are, no matter what day of the week or time of day! When driving to and from the reservoirs I do my best to watch for the bicyclists, but when they are riding two or three abreast , it's very difficult sometimes to get past them.

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Don't be ridiculous. Bikes do not hold up thousands at a time, it's more like dozens outside of exceptional circumstances like a bike RACE, where the authorities provide special traffic control anyhow. They also don't hold them up unless it's impractical to pass the biker. When that occurs, it's almost always very temporary because the road or traffic conditions pass as things progress.

As for hugging the right, they already have to do that when a motor vehicle comes along.

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I cannot think of any state that allows you to legally pass a bicycle where you could not legally pass a car. As such, that means it's illegal to pass a bicycle on the majority of daily driving routes in this country.

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Most states have 3' laws. If you can safely pass a bike, you must leave 3' of clearance between your car and the cyclist.

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Holy shitsnacks!

3' is for pussies.

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It's not illegal to pass a bicycle because you can't think of a state that allows it.

In actuality, every state allows it. (according to the National Conference of State Legislatures).



http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/transport/safely-passing-bicyclists.aspx

I don't know about Texas, but that's not true here. In fact, here bikes are entitled to an entire lane if they choose to use it, and then cars are not allowed to pass them except in circumstances where they could pass an automobile in the same situation. (For instance, double solid line? You aren't allowed to pass a bike.)

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Georgia's 3-foot rule will invariably run you abreast another traffic violation. I can't really speak to other states, but in Georgia the law effectively prohibits you from passing unless you could pass a car. Georgia's "Failure to maintain lane" violation means you can't pass a bicycle in any non-passing zone, as your vehicle will breach the center line by leaving 3 feet for a bicycle.

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