The Glade 4.0

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... rriage-act

still reading. One down.

Good deal!

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And Prop 8 falls because of standing issues. One-Two.

Good stuff.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Can't wait to read these opinions.

**** yeah.

Also, Texans told their senate to **** the hell off after they cheated Wendy Davis' filibuster. Double **** yeah.

Interesting tangent so gay marriage = abortions in your mind?

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Not to speak for FarSky, but I suspect it's more preventing religious dogma becoming law.

So being slightly pro-life (shifting the deadline for abortions from 6 months to 5 months) means you are religious then? Also interesting.

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More "hey, things I support had a good day in court/legislative review" yesterday, and there wasn't a separate thread for that.

Just to get a head count for future developments...

If a gay couple wants to get married by a church that doesn't support gay marriage, should the church be forced to marry the gay couple or punished somehow for not doing so?

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Short answer: no. Long answer: nooooooooooo.

Apart from the rhetoric of the social-right claiming this is the end result, I've yet to see anyone in the social-left (or middle) suggest this is something they would ever want.

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I'll bet you a box of donuts that it will be put to the challenge by someone within the next 10 years.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

FTFY

zomg! Gays are going to oppress Christians by forcing homophobes to perform weddings!

That's the stupidest **** objection to legalizing gay marriage I've ever heard. What makes you think a pair of gays would want to spend their wedding at your church?

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Make mine custard filled with chocolate on top please.

There is a place here called Shipley's. Best donuts around. A dozen cost around 8 bucks. You can send a check.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Are you asking me specifically or just in general?

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Should we maybe look at existing precedent? You can't force a Catholic Priest to marry non-catholics (or even catholics living in a state of "sin"). Why would you be able to force them to marry gays now?

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Shorten the timeframe and I will take your bet. I don't want to wait 10 years to collect my donuts.

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I'll stick with 10 though I wouldn't be surprised if it's sooner.

See, i figure the odds are already in my favor. We have private business owners being sued for not providing wedding support for gays. You just know there is some extreme gay couple out there wanting to prove a point.

I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it, it's just something I think will happen. I really only wanted my intial question answered.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Just to clarify the wager, I believe Nitefox is betting on some representative of the militant idiot arm of the gay community to engage in militant idiocy. Anyone wanting to accept the wager would be betting against. I don't know how many of you have studied much history...

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That's because Nitefox is currently feeling lonely engaging in militant idiocy by himself.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.