The Glade 4.0

Are you male over the age of 18? Betting you registered for selective service.

If you are always out for #1, then you are selfish and not acting as part of society. If you are going to be a valuable member of society, you must contribute. And, as I said, protecting society's children is the most basic task.

Oh since you said it was society's most basic task then ok.

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We as a society have gone insane over "protecting the children" and now sue over the slightest provocation. In order to protect ourselves from our fellow rabid citizens, we have adopted Official Policies that, if followed, clear us of all financial responsibility for any harm that might befall someone else's child. Now, we aren't the ones who created this society, for most of us it was our parents, but we're perpetuating the problem in our zeal to sue whenever Junior stubs his toe. That makes us responsible, and so we are getting what we deserve right now.

Your child isn't special. Your child isn't unique. Your child is just a smaller version of you, and you are a waste of sperm and eggs sucking up air that I could be breathing. There are six billion people on this planet. Most of us aren't worth anywhere near what we think we are.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Don't conflate the two issues. First, I agree with you, and your statement supports my position. "Protect the children" falls to defend victim against attackers. "Protect the children" does not extend to preventing someone from touching your ingrate children who are committing assault. I'm talking about a very basic level.

FTFY.

They ain't my kids. Not my responsibility.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I gotta say, I call bullshit on this whole thread. I would bet large sums of money that not a single person here would have actually failed to intervene in this case. I've known you guys too long and seen too many of your posts in the other direction to see this thread as anything other than people arguing a point in the abstract because the discussion was framed as being about school employees at risk of getting sued/prosecuted for disciplining punk kids, which is a favorite Glade hobbyhorse. If any of you actually saw a 13-year old kid that you were in any way responsible for getting his *** beaten down by three older boys, I firmly believe you would step in without hesitation.

I'm prepared to say that I have no idea what I would have done under those specific circumstances. Mainly because i don't have enough detail about the specifics in this case.

I'm also prepared to give this elderly gentleman the benefit of the doubt. He has the benefit of many years of wisdom going for him, and used his best judgement under the circumstances he was faced with.

If I thought that by saving some kid from an *** wooping I'd put my family's future at risk, that kid would get his *** whooped. Who knows, the kid might deserve an *** wooping.

If I thought the kid might die, I'd do something. Thing is, I'm not sure there'd be enough time to know when events change from things being an *** wooping to murder.

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In time, this too shall pass.

A Glade rarity:

DFK! agrees entirely with the camel.



Edit:

Additionally, DFK! also agrees entirely with Arafys' modified version of Arathain's statement. My obligation is to protect my family, not yours.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Then you are not contributing to society. You're focused on your own. So, from society's perspective, you're not of any value.

A person's value to society is not predicated on whether or not they'll risk their life for a child that is not theirs. That's patently ridiculous.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Bull **** ****... I am paying my taxes so everyone can take those buses to school. And why the **** should someone who does not like kids and has no desire to have their own feel any compunction whatsoever to help kids? Which is pretty much what you are expecting 'Fys to do.

I would not even expect 'Fys to put his neck out for my child. And I have known him for 20+ years.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Eh, your kid is a little different. She falls into the protective bubble. Some random kid? Not as much.

I'm not a complete heartless monster. I'm just not going to risk my life and/or livelihood to help someone I don't know.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Liar, you'd jump in to the rescue if you saw a brony getting beat up.

I still do not expect it.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Only if he said "Help me Pinkie Wan Pienobi, you're my only hope!"

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Holy shitsnacks!

Worst thread ever.

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I think you guys have become so jaded and cynical that it's time to drink the punch.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I am now imagining that your avatar is charging at the unsuspecting pony in your signature.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Children don't contribute to society and there is no guarantee that any child ever will. So, from society's perspective, children are not of any value.

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Los Angeles Kings 2014 Stanley Cup Champions

"I love this **** team right here."
-Jonathan Quick

That's nonsense, and you know it. The average child has more value to society in general than the average adult. Look around, man.

Well, then you folks know my opinion of him.

We know that many children will, in fact, contribute. Therefore, children are of value to society, in the aggregate. The fact that they aren't contributing right now is shortsighted and foolish as a reason to say they are of no value.

Furthermore, the evidence strongly indicates that society does value children. You might want to consider that empirical evidence trumps shoddy reasoning.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

What exactly did Jeffrey Dahmer contribute? How about Hitler? How about derp?

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