The Glade 4.0

Oh, I should also mention that Willie is quite accurate in my sig

Oh, I should also mention that Willie is quite accurate in my sig...

City of New Orleans
© Turnpike Tom Music 1970
Riding on the City of New Orleans
Illinois Central Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulls out at Kankakee
Rolls along past houses, farms and fields
Passin' towns that have no names
Freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles

Chorus
Good morning, America, how are you
Don't you know me, I'm your native son
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done

Dealin' cards with the old men in the club car
Penny a point, ain't no one keepin' score
Won't you pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor
And the sons of pullman porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpet made of steam
Mothers with their babes asleep
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rails is all they dream

Chorus

Night time on The City of New Orleans
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee
Half way home, and we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea
And all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain't heard the news
The conductor sings his song again
The passengers will please refrain
This train's got the disappearing railroad blues

Final Chorus
Good night, America, how are you
Don't you know me, I'm your native son
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done

Repeat First Chorus
Good morning, America, how are you
Don't you know me, I'm your native son
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done

That one has been bugging me for a while.

It is. And we're still going to murder your *** for having the wrong opinion.

**** you that's why is my line, *******.

That said, there are not always options. A plane may be necessary for example.

And you have a clear history of thinking children are the be all and end all of life. I'm free to express my opinion. Did I say that airlines should ban children? Or ban families? No. I said that children have no business on an airplane unless the parents can make their children be civil. Additionally, children do not have a right to travel. Parents do. Parents hold the right in trust for their children.

I could logically make an argument that taking a child on an airplane is abuse of that right and any parent who does so should have a CPS intervention. I'm not. I'm just asking that parents go back to the days of understanding that not letting your children behave like wailing **** was expected in society.

As someone who flies frequently, I will also add that there is a HUGE difference between the parent who is actively trying to do everything they can to quiet their disruptive child and the parent who apparently thinks that "kids will be kids". The later needs to go to the special hell with the child molesters and people who talk in the theatre.

Most reasonable people would not disagree.

McDonalds... screaming kids... awesome. 5 star steakhouse where it is $60+ a plate... I want to eat my steak in piece... I do not even bring my kids into those places because they always get a case of can'tactright.

My personal approach usually involves getting them out of the situation, but there have been times when attempts to contain the behavior only exacerbates it.

No, the logic argument is that taking children into airports is abusive and negligent parenting, inherently.

And I can make it using entirely non-emotional factors.

Additionally, point to where I've specifically suggested people not take children. This is twice you've ascribed that position to me when it doesn't exist.

I've stated parents shouldn't take kids in planes if they cannot control the children. The fact you find that unreasonable is both your opinion and your problem. You can categorize it as "whining" if you want, but that's pretty meaningless.

Then why are you arguing with me.

Then why are you arguing with me.

As we've found out in several other threads recently, from the one about the bus driver to the thread about his home school district, Arathain wants other people to be responsible for his children.

Lord, look at some of the online discussions regarding children and airplanes.

Airplanes I can understand.

But I will never, ever forgive parents who bring their infants who aren't even self-mobile to loud, explosion-y, action packed, booby-fillled, and-did-I-mention-loud rater R movies.

As we've found out in several other threads recently, from the one about the bus driver to the thread about his home school district, Arathain wants other people to be responsible for his children.