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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:10 pm 
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Bradley Manning trial verdict: Acquitted of aiding the enemy, convicted on lesser charges

FORT MEADE, Md. — A military judge Tuesday acquitted Pfc. Bradley Manning of aiding the enemy — the most serious charge the Army intelligence analyst faced for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified military reports and diplomatic cables.

Manning was convicted on all but one of the lesser charges considered by the judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, in connection with the website WikiLeaks’s receipt of the largest breach of classified material in U.S. history.

The suspense at Tuesday’s five-minute-long court martial session was limited because Manning previously pled guilty to at least portions of 10 of the 22 counts he faced. Also restraining the drama was the absence of a military jury, which the defendant waived.

Lind made no comments and displayed no emotion as she read her verdicts, which followed almost three months of witnesses and evidence which the judge heard as the sole fact-finder in the case.

After warning spectators in the packed courtroom to avoid any outbursts, Lind recited a list of the charges, adding her “not guilty” or — more often — “guilty” to each. She also accepted and described changes in some of the charges that the defense offered with Manning’s guilty pleas.

The aiding-the-enemy charge could have resulted in a sentence of up to life in prison or even to the death penalty, but the military did not seek capital punishment in Manning’s case.

If convicted on all charges but aiding the enemy, Manning faced a potential sentence to well over 100 years in prison. The charges the Army intelligence analyst pled guilty to carry a potential sentence of about 20 years.

Manning did not dispute the fact that he sent WikiLeaks most of the material that led to the charges against him. However, his defense argued that some of the counts were legally flawed.

Prosecutors contend that Manning was guilty of aiding the enemy because knew what he sent to WikiLeaks would wind up in the hands of Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

However, Manning’s defense and First Amendment advocates expressed concern about the aiding-the-enemy charge, saying it could convert almost any leak of classified information to the media into an aiding-the-enemy case since terrorist groups have access to most media reports and websites via the Internet.

The Army intelligence analyst was arrested in May 2010 at a forward operating base in Iraq where he studied threats in a section of Baghdad. He’s been in custody since.

Lind ordered the sentencing phase of Manning’s court martial to begin at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. Prosecutors are expected to call witnesses demonstrating the harm caused by Manning’s disclosures, while the defense will seek to undercut that evidence and argue for leniency.

All convictions and any sentence ultimately handed down in the case are subject to review of the military officer who convened the court martial, Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Buchanan of the Army’s Military District of Washington. In addition, the case is likely to be reviewed by military appeals courts.

Lind ruled in January that Manning is entitled to a sentencing credit of nearly four months as a result of what she determined was unnecessarily harsh treatment the intelligence analysts received during his almost nine-month stay at a Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va.

Manning’s case is one of an unprecedented flurry of leak-related criminal prosecutions brought under the Obama administration. A total of seven such cases have been brought in the past four and a half years, more than double the number of such cases in all prior administrations combined.

The administration expressed no regret about its handling of the recent wave of cases until earlier this year, when extensive attention to the Justice Department’s seizure of Associated Press phone records and a search warrant for a Fox reporter’s emails in a leak investigation led to a review of longstanding guidelines for such probes.

After an internal review, Attorney General Eric Holder changed DOJ policies earlier this month to make it more difficult to access journalists’ work materials in instances where they are not the target of an investigation.

The case against Manning was prosecuted in the military justice system, which is separate from the civilian courts. But ivilian federal prosecutors in Alexandria, Va. have been conducting a grand jury investigation of WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange.

It’s unclear what how prosecutors might seek to build a case against Assange, who has asserted that WikiLeaks is a news organization that acts in ways similar to those in which more conventional journalists gather news. Many lawmakers have called for Assange to be prosecuted for espionage or treason.

However, following the outcry over the AP and Fox News investigations, President Barack Obama declared: “Journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs.”

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He's still going away for a while. The verdict seems to make sense (no malicious intent, no aiding the enemy) if that's how the UCMJ is supposed to work.

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It is. Manning didn't have intent to aid the enemy; he was an angry lower enlisted soldier looking to stick to the army over personal issues. The death penalty would have been clearly inappropriate. That doesn't change the fact that he's a self-centered little turd who released sensitive information for personal purposes. He's not a whistleblower or a hero; Snowden puts him to shame. He deserves his sentence.

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Cross-posting from here, since I got my Manning and Snowden wires crossed....

I have zero problem with trans people, and I know they get subjected to a lot of skeptical questioning they don't deserve, but when a guy who has just been sentenced to 35 years in prison suddenly announces that he's trans and wants to begin medical transitioning, I have to say I'm a little suspicious that he may be faking it because he'd rather spend 35 years in a women's prison than in a men's prison.

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On Thursday, Bradley Manning made the announcement in a TODAY exclusive that he would like to live out the rest of his life as a woman. Below is Manning's full statement to the public:

Subject: The Next Stage of My Life

I want to thank everybody who has supported me over the last three years. Throughout this long ordeal, your letters of support and encouragement have helped keep me strong. I am forever indebted to those who wrote to me, made a donation to my defense fund, or came to watch a portion of the trial. I would especially like to thank Courage to Resist and the Bradley Manning Support Network for their tireless efforts in raising awareness for my case and providing for my legal representation.

As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition. I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility). I look forward to receiving letters from supporters and having the opportunity to write back.

Thank you,

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Same response as that thread, then. This isn't new.

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Same response as that thread, then. This isn't new.

Yeah, guess I missed that aspect of the defense. Is there evidence of his gender dysphoria that pre-dates the trial? I mean, I'm generally inclined to just take anyone claiming to be trans at their word, since identity is such a personal and subjective thing and it's none of my business anyway, but the timing of the announcement that he wants to actually, physically transition makes me a bit skeptical in this case.


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There are actually physical markers of Gender dysphoria in a large number of cases. (brain structures notably) I don't know that any of these tests were done though.


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DFK! wrote:
Same response as that thread, then. This isn't new.

Yeah, guess I missed that aspect of the defense. Is there evidence of his gender dysphoria that pre-dates the trial?


Yes, although I do not have it quick to hand.

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...but the timing of the announcement that he wants to actually, physically transition makes me a bit skeptical in this case.


Not me. He had to wait until the trial was finished. If guilty, it's a different person/group "responsible" for his future: the gov't. as opposed to himself, specifically.

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Yeah, guess I missed that aspect of the defense. Is there evidence of his gender dysphoria that pre-dates the trial?


Yes, although I do not have it quick to hand.


I seem to recall that he indicated homosexuality, not gender dysorphia in the past.

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...but the timing of the announcement that he wants to actually, physically transition makes me a bit skeptical in this case.


Not me. He had to wait until the trial was finished. If guilty, it's a different person/group "responsible" for his future: the gov't. as opposed to himself, specifically.
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If found not guilty, he would have (temporarily at least) been returned to duty as an acquitted soldier. In his case, however, had he been acquitted and had any term of service remaining he would almost certainly have been separated from the service under Chapter proceedings for the good of both the government and the Soldier. That would have given him an honorable discharge.

I will look up the regulations on the military disciplinary barracks, and regulations regarding transgendered soldiers. They may be in something of a state of flux, however, with the changes to don't ask, don't tell, and the removal of barriers to women in combat MOS's... if there even are any such regulations. Gender dysmorphia is a medical problem that requires medical treatment to address, unlike homosexuality which is not a medical problem and doesn't requore any treatment. Therefore, it may simply fall under "medically unfit for service."

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That's how Jamie Farr portrayed it anyway.

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Ok, here's what I can determine from the regulations - none of which directly answer the question of access to medical treatment needed for transgender individuals if they are confined to the Disciplinary Barracks, which does not accommodate female prisoners. Female prisoners are housed at NAVCONBRIG, located at Miramar California; a location that anyone here ought to recognize from somewhere else.....

Anyhow, being transgendered; either identifying as such or being in any stage of the medical transition is a medical disqualifier from military service. A person that identifies as transgender after enlistment and comes forward with it or seeks medical treatment to transition will be chaptered out of the military for medical reasons.

Transgender individuals who are veterans might be able to obtain support from the VA, however; I didn't look into that too much but it didn't appear to be right out.

The sticky situation here is that Manning is not being discharged from the military any time soon. Military prisoners remain in the military and are subject to the uniform and grooming standards appropriate for prisoners of their gender.

Where this gets sticky is that the courts, on one hand, have determined that in civilian prisoners, sex change therapies may not be withheld; it's cruel and unusual punishment to do so. This decision doesn't apply to the military (necessarily) however, since the courts have also ruled that the military is best equipped to determine its own standards of good order and discipline and the courts are reluctant to interfere with those.

So, at this point there is no good answer. The other issue is that these therapies and ultimately surgery are medical procedures and must be done under the care of a physician; you can't go buy yourself the hormones off the counter at the drugstore (or at the prison commissary for that matter). Manning will have to be examined by doctors and psychiatrists and how that will end up is anyone's guess.

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How many female inmates are serving in Leavenworth?

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How many female inmates are serving in Leavenworth?
Zero.


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How many female inmates are serving in Leavenworth?


None. Like I said, females go to NAVCONBRIG. There are relatively few female inmates, so the military consolidates all at one facility.

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Would you rather serve your time with rough men in Kansas or with rough women San Diego? Seems to me, that Manning may be maneuvering to change where he is imprisoned. Since he already had the transgender issues why not go for it.

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Most likely that's exactly what he's doing. The problem is that he's now demanding that the military provide him a medical service for a condition that normally would disqualify him from further service, and relying on the fact that he won't be discharged due to his sentence to extract it.

We're essentially in uncharted territory in that regard, but I think it's obvious that a convicted military prisoner ought not to be able to obtain services from the military that a regular soldier wouldn't be entitled to. The VA won't help him when he's out because he'll be dishonorably discharged, even though a regular soldier would be able to obtain help with transgender issues through the VA.

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As a gamer, I always loved taking the GMs into territory they hadn't had time to think out. Challenging their assumptions about how the characters are going to act and hitting scenario the rules didn't cover were always a blast.

This is why I am enjoying this move. Life is a twisty winding maze and you hear scuffling down the hall.

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I think they should use this as a basis to discharge him, give him the treatments, then send him to a civilian male prison to serve out his term.


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I think they should use this as a basis to discharge him, give him the treatments, then send him to a civilian male prison to serve out his term.


I don't believe military regulations permit this.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I think they should use this as a basis to discharge him, give him the treatments, then send him to a civilian male prison to serve out his term.


I don't believe military regulations permit this.


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I think they should use this as a basis to discharge him, give him the treatments, then send him to a civilian male prison to serve out his term.


I don't believe military regulations permit this.


Details.


Yeah, due process is like that.

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He was tried under the UCMJ, not civil law. There is no way he could be put in a civilian prison under those circumstances.


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