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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:33 pm 
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wtf?

• be a natural-born citizen of the United States;
• be at least thirty-five years old;
• have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

How is Hilary not qualified?

I think it's fairly obvious that people are talking about ability to perform the job, not legal ability to be elected to it. In that regard, Hillary is sadly unqualified; her sole recommendation is having been secretary of state. Her entire previous resume is built on the combination of A) her husband's popularity and B) her possession of a vagina and a legal career.

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I think we should vote for Oprah. Free cars for America!

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You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


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Lenas wrote:
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You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


No, I don't think that is within his skill set.

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Micheal wrote:
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You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


No, I don't think that is within his skill set.


**** you too.

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You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


No, because the question is "what is that skill set?" Is it military expertise? Being a talking mouthpiece? Being a politicker? Having knowledge of the legal system? Foreign relations experience? Or is it, as you decided to be a sarcastic about, and yet decide to call me out on, when I wasn't the one being sarcastic.... meeting the bare minimum legal requirements for office?

Intent does not align the definitions in the minds of everybody posting their responses.

So this question is like asking "what is the best flavor from Ben and Jerry? It's absurd. If you define best, you could have a reasonable debate about it.

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New Clinton has all the connections, monies and insiders of old Clinton, plus a vagina. She is unstoppable.

And a terrible choice.


Not to mention that she was supposedly unstoppable in 2008.


And that she's still not "qualified."




This discussion is meaningless without an agreed-upon use of the word "qualified."


Not at all. I asked who is most qualified and why. We don't need to agree to standards, that's dumb. Just defend your choice.


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DFK! wrote:
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DFK! wrote:
You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


No, I don't think that is within his skill set.


**** you too.

Lenas wrote:
DFK! wrote:
You have just made my point.


Can you reply like a normal person in assuming the question translates to, "Who had the best skill set to run the country when assigned the role of POTUS," because that was obviously the intent behind it?


No, because the question is "what is that skill set?" Is it military expertise? Being a talking mouthpiece? Being a politicker? Having knowledge of the legal system? Foreign relations experience? Or is it, as you decided to be a sarcastic about, and yet decide to call me out on, when I wasn't the one being sarcastic.... meeting the bare minimum legal requirements for office?

Intent does not align the definitions in the minds of everybody posting their responses.

So this question is like asking "what is the best flavor from Ben and Jerry? It's absurd. If you define best, you could have a reasonable debate about it.


It's whatever the **** you want it to be. Who is YOUR most qualified candidate, and why?

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
It's whatever the **** you want it to be. Who is YOUR most qualified candidate, and why?

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Then that's just picking a favorite president.

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It's whatever the **** you want it to be. Who is YOUR most qualified candidate, and why?

WTF


Then that's just picking a favorite president.


No, not if you read the question. Who was the most qualified upon election, and why. Not who is your favorite. We're not looking at outcomes of the presidency, but everything they did leading up to the election.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
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It's whatever the **** you want it to be. Who is YOUR most qualified candidate, and why?

WTF


Then that's just picking a favorite president.


No, not if you read the question. Who was the most qualified upon election, and why. Not who is your favorite. We're not looking at outcomes of the presidency, but everything they did leading up to the election.


I did read it. And there isn't enough information to make an informed opinion.

So I suppose that's my answer, just to end this.... "Abstain."

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DFK! wrote:
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It's whatever the **** you want it to be. Who is YOUR most qualified candidate, and why?

WTF


Then that's just picking a favorite president.


No, not if you read the question. Who was the most qualified upon election, and why. Not who is your favorite. We're not looking at outcomes of the presidency, but everything they did leading up to the election.


I did read it. And there isn't enough information to make an informed opinion.

So I suppose that's my answer, just to end this.... "Abstain."


I gave you complete latitude to frame the question however you like. But yeah, abstain is probably good.


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The guy in Independence Day?

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Phish food. On this, there can be no debate.

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I would posit that coming into the position having held prior executive experience would be a prerequisite for consideration as the most qualified president ever, and with that, John Quincy Adams is off the list.

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While agreeing with your tenet that previous executive experience I disagree with your conclusion. Executive experience is not limited to supreme executive office. The Secretary of State is an executive position. JQA is still in the running. By your qualifier you seem to be limiting the pool of candidates to second term presidents.

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^ Or Governors, or former business owners.

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Micheal wrote:
While agreeing with your tenet that previous executive experience I disagree with your conclusion. Executive experience is not limited to supreme executive office. The Secretary of State is an executive position. JQA is still in the running. By your qualifier you seem to be limiting the pool of candidates to second term presidents.

Governors.

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Yes, you could definitely add governors to the list. Not so sure I want to add businessmen to the list. Schwarzenegger was and is a good businessman, but private enterprise did not prepare him for public service. He was a lousy governor. It really is 't the same skill set.

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Yes, you could definitely add governors to the list. Not so sure I want to add businessmen to the list. Schwarzenegger was and is a good businessman, but private enterprise did not prepare him for public service. He was a lousy governor. It really is 't the same skill set.

I think you'd want someone who excelled in both roles. A successful governor who was also a dynamic businessman.

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I would definitely put a business-governor as more qualified than a secretary of state, but both are executive positions.


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I'd say it really depends on the business personally. Would the President of GE make a good member of the executive branch? Absolutely. The owner of Jimmy's House of Waffle-Stuffed-Chickens? Maybe not so much.

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I'd say it really depends on the business personally. Would the President of GE make a good member of the executive branch? Absolutely. The owner of Jimmy's House of Waffle-Stuffed-Chickens? Maybe not so much.


Sure, same can be said of governors.

California? Texas? Ok, those are real states. WVA? Um....


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Running a business is a considerably different executive experience than running a state, or being President. In some cases it might be a positive, in others not so much.

2 of the worst secretaries of defense (Rumsfeld and McNamara) had been CEOs in the past, and in both cases, attempting to make defense work like a business was part of the problem. Similarly, Washington and Eisenhower both were well prepared for the Presidency by their military experience, but Grant.. not so much.

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I'd say it really depends on the business personally. Would the President of GE make a good member of the executive branch? Absolutely. The owner of Jimmy's House of Waffle-Stuffed-Chickens? Maybe not so much.


Sure, same can be said of governors.

California? Texas? Ok, those are real states. WVA? Um....

Good point I'd sign off on that statement.

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