RangerDave wrote:
I appreciate the line-by-line, DFK, but if I may simplify, it seems like whereever I pointed out an opening for them to play games with the numbers, you've simply assumed they didn't. When all is said and done, our disagreement basically boils down to you treating Heritage like a disinterested party performing a good-faith analysis and me saying that's a silly thing to do given their agenda and track record. We are at an impasse.
If that's your standard for throwing out evidence, you show throw out all statistical studies ever completed. Bias, ignorance, whathaveyou, it's ridiculous as a logical standard.
TheRiov wrote:
Licensing is about maintaining standards of care, not ensuring doctors salaries or that medical school tuition remains high.
Horseshit. Why aren't there more dermatology residencies?
TheRiov wrote:
http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-UnitedStates/Local%20Assets/Documents/us_chs_2013SurveyofUSPhysicians_031813.pdf
According to the survey 44% of US Physicians think the ACA is "a step in the right direction" and 38% think its "A step in the wrong direction" with 18% undecided.
Huh, funny you should quote that. I'm actually WAY more familiar with that than you are, and your piecemeal quotations forgot to include some key findings:
Deloitte wrote:
[Within the Executive Summary]
Based on the results of the Deloitte 2013 Survey of U.S.
Physicians,* most U.S. physicians are concerned about the
future of the profession and consider many changes in the
market to be a threat. Most believe that...
•The performance of the U.S. health care system is
suboptimal, but the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is a
good start to addressing issues of access and cost.
•The future of the medical profession may be in jeopardy
as it loses clinical autonomy and compensation.
•Satisfaction with the profession is driven by patient
relationships.
•Medical liability (malpractice) reform is a major concern
to physicians.
•Health insurance exchanges (HIXs) are unlikely to be ready
for enrollment by the 2013 deadline.
•Physicians are likely to increasingly compete with mid-level
professionals in primary care
[...]
Also, the literal FIRST "key finding" states:
Deloitte wrote:
Physicians are pessimistic about the future of
medicine. The majority worry about the profession’s
erosion of clinical autonomy and income, and its
inability to achieve medical liability reform
Furthermore, the poll on ACA was trinary: "A good start," or "a step in the wrong direction," or "don't know" were the only three choices. Not "I like it" or "I view it favorably" or "it's the best solution." JUST whether it's a good start or the wrong way.
It should also be noted that this is a retrospective study to data polled in 2012, which means that (as of this conversation) we have 10 months of rollout/implementation of the law that those polled did not know about at the time of polling.
@RD: Ezra Klein, in that article anyway, is retarded. Congress has no obligation to fund anything. And Klein, Jon Stewart, and any other liberal who is screaming to just "fund it and get out of the way" is both an idiot and fails to understand the balance of power created through the checks and balances of our system.
Or, as Obama is a fan of saying, "elections have consequences."