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I'd love for Idris Elba to be playing characters both in DC and Marvel films concurrently. (Heimdall and John Stewart.)

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John Stewart is a bad idea; Kyle or Guy would be my pick.

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Watching Guy and Oliver's public face interact on Arrow would be fantastic.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Watching Guy and Oliver's public face interact on Arrow would be fantastic.
Thea would have to build a new bar.

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Eff Hal Jordan and double-eff Guy Gardner. Kyle would be OK, if uninspired. John Stewart all the way. And I second Idris Elba for the role.


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Eff Hal Jordan and double-eff Guy Gardner. Kyle would be OK, if uninspired. John Stewart all the way. And I second Idris Elba for the role.
You don't want John Stewart, because John Stewart is useless without Hal. That's just kind of how it works ...

Guy Gardner would be the best option for Arrow, with Kyle a close second. And the reason you don't want Hal ...

Hal is complex. John is the most 1 dimensional of the Earth-bound Lanterns until The New 52 and all those fantastic events in recent memory involving the Rainbow Corps.

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Stewart was the Green Lantern of the DCAU, and I never once missed Hal Jordan's overpraised presence. Nor did Jordan's absence somehow diminish Stewart's character.

Guy Gardner is a vile, loathsome character unworthy of the slightest attention.

I'm unsure of why Hal Jordan being "complex" (quotes intentional) means I don't want him. But aside from nostalgia of Jordan being the "first" Green Lantern most people know, there's nothing particularly special about him. Oooh, a wise-cracking white guy. That'll add an unexpected and fresh character dynamic! Let's get some of that.


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Stewart was the Green Lantern of the DCAU, and I never once missed Hal Jordan's overpraised presence. Nor did Jordan's absence somehow diminish Stewart's character.

Guy Gardner is a vile, loathsome character unworthy of the slightest attention.

I'm unsure of why Hal Jordan being "complex" (quotes intentional) means I don't want him. But aside from nostalgia of Jordan being the "first" Green Lantern most people know, there's nothing particularly special about him. Oooh, a wise-cracking white guy. That'll add an unexpected and fresh character dynamic! Let's get some of that.
You should not equate John Stewart in the DCAU with John Stewart elsewhere. As for Hal Jordan, Hal Jordan is the entire reason John Stewart gets to be a Lantern, and Hal is largely why Stewart is arguably the "best" Lantern even in canon. Stewart, though, is 1 dimensional until very recently in print.

And if I wanted to go with the first lantern I know, I'd pick Scott.

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Stewart was the Green Lantern of the DCAU, and I never once missed Hal Jordan's overpraised presence. Nor did Jordan's absence somehow diminish Stewart's character.

Guy Gardner is a vile, loathsome character unworthy of the slightest attention.

I'm unsure of why Hal Jordan being "complex" (quotes intentional) means I don't want him. But aside from nostalgia of Jordan being the "first" Green Lantern most people know, there's nothing particularly special about him. Oooh, a wise-cracking white guy. That'll add an unexpected and fresh character dynamic! Let's get some of that.
You should not equate John Stewart in the DCAU with John Stewart elsewhere. As for Hal Jordan, Hal Jordan is the entire reason John Stewart gets to be a Lantern, and Hal is largely why Stewart is arguably the "best" Lantern even in canon. Stewart, though, is 1 dimensional until very recently in print.

And if I wanted to go with the first lantern I know, I'd pick Scott.

The presupposition here is that adaptive media will or should be beholden to print canon. I am perfectly fine without that.

Want to do a new GL movie or have him enter the TV-sphere? Abin Sur crash-lands on Earth, and his ring picks John Stewart to be the first human Green Lantern Corps member. Boom, profit.


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Not suggesting that Arrow needs to be overly beholden to canon, but even the DCAU John Stewart is largely dependent on Hal being a ****.

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Khross wrote:
You should not equate John Stewart in the DCAU with John Stewart elsewhere.



DCAU is the standard with which I judge any DC-Comics based tv show/movie. I don't read comics. Not that I wouldn't, i just don't. As a consequence, John Stewart for me is Green Lantern. He's the only incarnation of GL that ever interested me in the slightest. Any other TV show or movie I've seen has used different GLs, and they've all been boring.

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Well, put a power ring on John Diggle and you have John Stewart, canonically speaking.

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John Stewart for me is Green Lantern.


The Daily Show guy? That would be AMAZING!

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Anyone watching this? Based on the first three episodes, it's pretty damn good.


I watch it on Netflix, really good show.


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Idris as the Martian Manhunter makes more sense to me. There were some great Brave and the Bold issues with the GA/MM team-up.

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Khross wrote:
Well, put a power ring on John Diggle and you have John Stewart, canonically speaking.


This occurred to me, then it occurred to me how FREAKING AWESOME! that would be, thus proving Stewart's awesomeness. Maybe his middle name is Stewart and we just don't know it yet (hope hope)

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See, I'm not terribly opposed to John Stewart, but that takes time and needs build up. You have got introduce human, Earth-bound Lanterns with Hal Jordan (and you can kill him off actually, pretty rapidly). You don't start with Abin-Sur; that's flashback material and Arrow sets that up pretty well; it's kind of familiar territory. But you start with Hal, and Hal goes and does something Hal-ish and gets his *** killed (say 4 episodes or so). And you can do killed here, because, seriously, Hal causes problems. Killing him would be a kindness. Just dispense with Mr. Jordan and if you ever bring him back, the precedent is set for the Spectre. That fits in nicely with the darker tone of Arrow. Also, the power ring goes to John "Stewart" Diggle (whose background is actually pretty analogous to the GL guy in the comics), and this lets Diggle finally put Deadshot away in the knock down drag out series finale.

You can leave the light stuff for Barry Allen and the Flash for now.

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You should not equate John Stewart in the DCAU with John Stewart elsewhere.



DCAU is the standard with which I judge any DC-Comics based tv show/movie. I don't read comics. Not that I wouldn't, i just don't. As a consequence, John Stewart for me is Green Lantern. He's the only incarnation of GL that ever interested me in the slightest. Any other TV show or movie I've seen has used different GLs, and they've all been boring.


Also, exactly. And we aren't the only ones who aren't consumers of Super Hero print content but yet fans of Super Hero Motion Picture/Animated content.

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Khross wrote:
See, I'm not terribly opposed to John Stewart, but that takes time and needs build up. You have got introduce human, Earth-bound Lanterns with Hal Jordan (and you can kill him off actually, pretty rapidly). You don't start with Abin-Sur; that's flashback material and Arrow sets that up pretty well; it's kind of familiar territory. But you start with Hal, and Hal goes and does something Hal-ish and gets his *** killed (say 4 episodes or so). And you can do killed here, because, seriously, Hal causes problems. Killing him would be a kindness. Just dispense with Mr. Jordan and if you ever bring him back, the precedent is set for the Spectre. That fits in nicely with the darker tone of Arrow. Also, the power ring goes to John "Stewart" Diggle (whose background is actually pretty analogous to the GL guy in the comics), and this lets Diggle finally put Deadshot away in the knock down drag out series finale.

You can leave the light stuff for Barry Allen and the Flash for now.

Just my two cents.


I could go for that. You could use Reynolds/Hal (even if you don't use Reynolds) and not get too far into his back-story with that as well.

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And John Stewart/Barry Allen is one of the best Flash/Lantern combinations. Although, to be honest, WALLY people. What is wrong with you? It's the 21st Century, give Wally his due.

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Wally who?

/duck

Honestly, Mr. West was my Flash. Love him so much. Wally being gone is just another reason to hate Dan DiDio.

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Batman chose Wally over Barry.

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Wally is "my" Flash as well. Not sure what the big Barry Allen push they've been doing is all about.


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Although, to be honest, WALLY people. What is wrong with you? It's the 21st Century, give Wally his due.


Given my love for the DCAU, I have to agree.

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I grew up with Barry Allen. He was the Flash on a short-lived live-action series. He was the Silver Age Flash. He invented Flash Facts. He was smart; he was human; he was approachable.

Wally was better. Wally IS everything a super hero needs to be.

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