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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:10 am 
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Seriously? Huskies are an indigenous arctic breed. German Shepherds, unless they're from the show-strain of the breed, are double coated working dogs which are technically still wolf-dog hybrids. More proof your sister's dogs were probably less comfortable in her 72 degree house than outside.

Also, German Shepherds are generally the number one reason dog shows, AKC dog breeding standards, and other such nonsense should be illegal.


Oh my gods yes. What has done to some breeds is appalling.

(Happily, my frozen pipe yesterday was thawed without apparent breakage.)

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I got curious and wondered if wolves get hip dysplasia, and found there is conflicting info "out there" but one paragraph and a table of info stood out -

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Hip dysplasia has not been reported in the wild undomesticated carnivorous animals, such as wolves and foxes. A study of their pattern of growth found that the pups were slow-growing and late maturing. The young pups were whelped in dens. As newborns, they received their nourishment by nursing during the first few weeks. When more food was required, the mother killed rodents and either brought them to the den or ate the animal where it was killed and then returned to the den where the ingested rodents were regurgitated for the young to eat. Young carnivores were quite mature and 6 to 10 months old before they began to hunt. The amount of food available for the growing members of a litter was limited. This caused the young to mature slowly and remain thin and light for their body size. Such an environment favored the completion of ossification and developmental maturity of the joint before the hips could be subjected to possible injury, incongruity, or subluxation from excessive extrinsic forces (e.g., excessive body weight)

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My husky has not appeared concerned by the cold. I also saw her napping on the deck, stretched out in length, instead of the usual husky-ball. (Huskies will typically dig themselves a small den in the snow, curl up into a tight ball, and cover their noses with their tails for warmth. They'll do this even indoors, typically.)


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Many years ago went late season camping with some friends that owned a Malamute. The dog came out of the tent in the morning after snow had fallen. It was amusing to watch this cold weather breed dog see snow for the first time. One paw tentatively explored this cold wet stuff. The. The dog's head shot up and turned to its owner. It made a soft wolf, then happily bounded out to bounce, roll, then jump up and come over and tell us how wonderful the snow was. To keep from destroying the dog's day the owners did not try to get the dog to stop and obey them. They let the dog play until it was "dog tired" then brought it back into the tent to sleep. When the dog woke he was as well behaved as normal, but still pawed at the snow and smiled when he could. Good times.

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**** winter.


Talya = "Canadians for HIGW: Charter Member" ?


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Talya = "Canadians for HIGW: Charter Member" ?

What was that? I couldn't hear you. I was outside idling my car.

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If it makes you guys feel any better, we had over 7" of rain at the house yesterday. Flooding, tornado, school closures, road closures, etc... Not the worst storm I've experienced in Florida, but it makes the low top ten. Worse than a tropical depression, and most tropical storms that come through.

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Other statistics (and yes, I know I'm going off track here):

It's the dry season. In August, a 7.12" rain day isn't completely unheard of... but in January?

We got almost three months worth of rain yesterday. It was as much rain yesterday as we normally would get from the start of January through the third week in March (using the 30-year normal).

Yesterday's rain total alone gets us within three inches of the rainiest monthly total for January going back to 1895 when records collection began.

If I include the rest of the month's aggregate from my gauge, we're only an inch and a half away from the all-time January record, with two thirds of the month left to go.

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Vladimirr wrote:
If it makes you guys feel any better, we had over 7" of rain at the house yesterday. Flooding, tornado, school closures, road closures, etc... Not the worst storm I've experienced in Florida, but it makes the low top ten. Worse than a tropical depression, and most tropical storms that come through.


Wow - my parents are in Hobe Sound and didn't say anything!

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Depending on what side of town they're on, they could have gotten a lot of rain, or almost nothing. If they're over east near the island, I can't see how they didn't get flooded though.

NWS is now saying the Hobe Sound weather event wasn't a tornado, just straight-line 70-80mph winds. (Oh, good?) By the time it got down there , the system had a strong comma echo presentation on radar.

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A woman I was helping in Naples, FL was complaining how it was only 42 degrees at one point this week.

I recognize, for southern florida, that's exceptionally cold.

I also offer a big, fat, "Quit yer ****' whining!" That's still 42 degrees warmer than it was here at the time. (Although I admit, St. Louis was even 10 degrees colder than we were.)

It's going up to 48 here on the weekend. And raining. We may be swimming like Vlad.

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A woman I was helping in Naples, FL was complaining how it was only 42 degrees at one point this week.

I recognize, for southern florida, that's exceptionally cold.

I also offer a big, fat, "Quit yer ****' whining!"


Remember, though, our homes are designed to lose heat rather than retain it. Expansive, flat, open floor plans, with pronounced ridge vents, large windows and sliders instead of compact designs huddled vertically around a furnace. High ceilings to keep the heat away from the floor. No perennially-temperate basements, since we're on ancient coral beds - you dig down more than 10 feet, you hit water. Also the vast majority of homes don't have a fireplace; we have the equivalent of an electric space heater inside the A/C unit, and the fan blows what little hot air it generates around the house. Even strategic landscaping to shade important parts of the home during the warmest parts of the day.

And lastly... speaking for us transplants, we moved the heck out of the north so we wouldn't have to deal with 42 degrees anymore! :D

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Smiling in California. Watching the weather reports and hoping you all are surviving okay out there.

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Depending on what side of town they're on, they could have gotten a lot of rain, or almost nothing. If they're over east near the island, I can't see how they didn't get flooded though.

NWS is now saying the Hobe Sound weather event wasn't a tornado, just straight-line 70-80mph winds. (Oh, good?) By the time it got down there , the system had a strong comma echo presentation on radar.


Looking at the map, the trailer park that had damage (the jokes write themselves) is about 2 mi from their place as the crow flies.

My mom: "Well, we had a lot of wind...". They got lots of rain, but no damage from flooding.

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Hmm. I used to work right next to that trailer park. (Large white-roofed building 1/4 of the way from the top left of the image) Didn't realize how close it was until they released this photo.

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I'm still laughing that it hit the trailer park.

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I would love to see some rain coming our way. This has been a very dry year so far. :(

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God hates trailer parks. Tornadoes can move their path to hit them. A few years ago we had a couple hurricanes touch down in Sacramento. You guessed it, one hit a trailer park, the other hit a proposed site for a new trailer park. The economic downturn hit and it was never built, which seems strange to me.

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A few years ago we had a couple hurricanes touch down in Sacramento.


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Squirrl Girl - They were small and only technically hurricanes. One witness described the one he saw as a real big dust devil.

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Squirrl Girl - They were small and only technically hurricanes. One witness described the one he saw as a real big dust devil.

I think her confusion still stands. Are we talking about tornadoes?

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True that, my bad. Small tornadoes. Hurricanes ae much larger and usually much wetter.

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