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 Post subject: Newbie - Roku 3
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:39 am 
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So, I recently signed up for blockless.com so my IP identifies as American, and picked up a Roku 3.

I am completely clueless about great American channels. I have Netflix (which is awesome with a US IP). What other American Roku channels do I really want? What are the best free ones? What is worth paying for?

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I mainly use Netflix and Amazon.

The integrated search function and the connected headphones are pretty cool features.


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Oh, and Plex is great for sharing your 'personal' media.

I have a ReadyNas Ultra 6 with all of my media on it. I can access via my Roku, or any of my mobile devices.

The Plex server will run on any version of windows (post XP).

Edit: oh, and Plex works with Chromecast now too...


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Oh yea, the TED video channel is great if you like that stuff. Lots of ways to access TED videos, but the Roku has a dedicated channel for it.


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Midgen wrote:
Oh, and Plex is great for sharing your 'personal' media.

I have a ReadyNas Ultra 6 with all of my media on it. I can access via my Roku, or any of my mobile devices.

The Plex server will run on any version of windows (post XP).

Edit: oh, and Plex works with Chromecast now too...


I need to get a standalone computer again. I've had nothing but laptops for ages, and the Roku Media Player can't see my DLNA-enabled NAS. Plex works fine, but running a media server on a laptop doesn't make sense. Nice that it transcodes on the fly, though. All my media is in xvid codec, and Roku only likes h.264.

Explain to me the difference between Hulu+ and Amazon Prime? Neither exist in Canada.

I have Netflix already, not sure if I should sign up for another service.

Also, so nice to have Pandora again...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:53 am 
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Amazon prime is a Netflix competitor. Hulu is just for TV.


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Amazon Prime Instant Video has a lot to offer. If you are a prime member, you get access to a fairly large array of free movies and TV similar to the way Netflix works.

There is more to it than that though. It also has movie and TV show rentals, and current season TV shows (including premium channels stuff like HBO and Showtime shows).

I personally use it for TV series that I like to binge watch, but don't want to wait until it's on Netflix or Hulu.

For example, right now, I've purchased the full current season of Arrow. Every time a new episode airs on CW, that night, that episode becomes available to watch. i usually let a couple of them queue up, then watch all of them at once.

I've also already pre-purchased the entirety of Game of Thrones Season 3, which will be available to watch on the 19th.

I only did the trial of Hulu+, and didn't renew because.. commercials. They had these 30 second commercial breaks in place of the normal 2 minute versions you see on normal TV. Not sure if they are still doing that, but I'm done with any TV show that has a commercial break in it. They need to find another way to earn their advertising money.


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Midgen wrote:
I only did the trial of Hulu+, and didn't renew because.. commercials. They had these 30 second commercial breaks in place of the normal 2 minute versions you see on normal TV. Not sure if they are still doing that, but I'm done with any TV show that has a commercial break in it. They need to find another way to earn their advertising money.


Uh... isnt the point of a paid subscription being able to skip the commercials? o_O *has never tried Hulu+*

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Midgen wrote:
I only did the trial of Hulu+, and didn't renew because.. commercials. They had these 30 second commercial breaks in place of the normal 2 minute versions you see on normal TV. Not sure if they are still doing that, but I'm done with any TV show that has a commercial break in it. They need to find another way to earn their advertising money.


Uh... isnt the point of a paid subscription being able to skip the commercials? o_O *has never tried Hulu+*


http://www.hulu.com/support/article/20356372
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Help Main: Hulu Plus Overview

Why Are There Ads in Hulu Plus?

We include advertisements in Hulu Plus in order to reduce the monthly subscription price of the service. Premium content — especially from the current TV season — is not only expensive to make and license, but we also want to compensate our content partners fairly for the valuable entertainment they provide.

Hulu Plus offers what no other streaming content service on the market today can: current season episodes of popular shows like Glee, Community, and Modern Family, and full series runs (all episodes from every season) of popular library shows. To see a full list please go to Hulu Plus Content page.

We have found that by including a modest ad load, we can keep the price for Hulu Plus under eight bucks, while still providing users with access to the most popular current season shows on the devices of their choice.

We're continually working to tailor the ad experience to your interests in an effort to make the advertising you see on Hulu Plus more relevant and useful to you.
Was this information helpful? Yes | No


In regards to the last question about it being helpful.. I'm going with "No".

Of course I probably pay more for the full seasons I buy on Amazon, but they have no commercials, and I get to keep (access to) them forever. I don't watch very many shows. If I did, I might suffer through Hulu's commercials for the economy of it, but since I only cherry pick a few I'm interested in, it's worth it to buy them on Amazon Instant Video.


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After re-reading this, I realize I'm conflating Amazon Prime, and Amazon Instant Video.

I've always had both and so I've always considered them as the same service.

Basically, access to some of the Instant Video catalog is included with an Amazon Prime membership.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/ ... =201112290

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About Amazon Instant Video

With Amazon Instant Video, you can instantly watch digital movies and TV shows on your compatible connected TV or streaming device.

The Amazon Instant Video Store offers thousands of movies and TV shows for rental or purchase. With an eligible Amazon Prime membership, you can also instantly stream a portion of the Amazon Instant Video catalog at no additional cost. For more information about Prime Instant Video, go to About Prime Instant Video.

You can watch Amazon Instant Video titles from your computer's web browser or an Internet-connected streaming device, including Kindle Fire, PlayStation, Xbox, Wii, Wii U, Roku, and hundreds of TVs, set-top boxes, and Blu-ray players. To view a full list of supported devices, or to see if your device is compatible, go to Amazon Instant Video Compatible Devices.

Amazon Instant Video titles are also available for download on some devices, so you can watch when you're not connected to the Internet. For more information, go to Downloading Videos.

All Amazon Instant Video purchases, streams, and downloads must be completed within the United States by customers with a U.S. credit card and a U.S. billing address. If you're a U.S. customer stationed at a U.S. military base or living near a U.S. border, and you don't have access to Amazon Instant Video because of your location, please Contact Us.

Note: To purchase Amazon Instant Video titles, you must have an Amazon.com account with a valid 1-Click Payment Method. You don't have to enable 1-Click for all of your Amazon.com purchases, but you must have a valid 1-Click Payment Method to place an Amazon Instant Video order.


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Prime members can watch thousands of movies and TV shows at no additional cost.

With an eligible Amazon Prime membership, you have access to thousands of Prime Instant Video titles at no additional cost. You can instantly stream Prime Instant Video titles on your PC or Mac computer, Kindle Fire, iOS device, and hundreds of other Internet-connected TVs, Blu-ray players and set-top-boxes. For more information about compatible devices, go to Install Amazon Instant Video.

Note:

Due to licensing agreements, you must be located in the U.S. or Puerto Rico (with a billing address and payment method from the U.S. or Puerto Rico) to stream Prime titles. If you're a U.S. customer stationed at a U.S. military base or living near a U.S. border, and you don't have access to Prime Instant Video because of your location, please Contact Us.

Prime Instant Video is included with paid annual Prime memberships, 30-day Free Prime trials, and paid Amazon Student memberships. It is not included for Amazon Student memberships in the six-month free trial period, Amazon Mom memberships after the 30-day free Prime Instant Video trial period, or for guests of Amazon Prime members.

Selected Prime Instant Video titles are also available for download to Kindle Fire HD 2nd Generation and Kindle Fire HDX devices. To learn more, go to Download Prime Instant Video Titles.

At this time, Prime Instant Video is not supported on download-only devices, including TiVo and the Unbox player.


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Midgen wrote:
Crimsonsun wrote:
Midgen wrote:
I only did the trial of Hulu+, and didn't renew because.. commercials. They had these 30 second commercial breaks in place of the normal 2 minute versions you see on normal TV. Not sure if they are still doing that, but I'm done with any TV show that has a commercial break in it. They need to find another way to earn their advertising money.


Uh... isnt the point of a paid subscription being able to skip the commercials? o_O *has never tried Hulu+*


http://www.hulu.com/support/article/20356372
HuluPlus-Help wrote:
Help Main: Hulu Plus Overview

Why Are There Ads in Hulu Plus?

We include advertisements in Hulu Plus in order to reduce the monthly subscription price of the service. Premium content — especially from the current TV season — is not only expensive to make and license, but we also want to compensate our content partners fairly for the valuable entertainment they provide.

Hulu Plus offers what no other streaming content service on the market today can: current season episodes of popular shows like Glee, Community, and Modern Family, and full series runs (all episodes from every season) of popular library shows. To see a full list please go to Hulu Plus Content page.

We have found that by including a modest ad load, we can keep the price for Hulu Plus under eight bucks, while still providing users with access to the most popular current season shows on the devices of their choice.

We're continually working to tailor the ad experience to your interests in an effort to make the advertising you see on Hulu Plus more relevant and useful to you.
Was this information helpful? Yes | No


In regards to the last question about it being helpful.. I'm going with "No".

Of course I probably pay more for the full seasons I buy on Amazon, but they have no commercials, and I get to keep (access to) them forever. I don't watch very many shows. If I did, I might suffer through Hulu's commercials for the economy of it, but since I only cherry pick a few I'm interested in, it's worth it to buy them on Amazon Instant Video.


Well, screw that then. I was considering it as I can't watch Food Network anymore (as I changed work sites and they don't have cable XD )

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Yeah, it breaks down like this from most current to least current content:

Individual pay services (Apple store, Amazon Instant, Google Play) - Pay for every show, individual episodes or seasons, highest cost, fastest content (I believe almost all are available for purchase day of air or day after. Own them forever, or until the store shuts down.

Hulu (Hulu Plus) - Most current content, all with commercials. Owned by cable companies (A joint venture of NBCUniversal Television Group (Comcast), Fox Broadcasting Company (21st Century Fox) and Disney–ABC Television Group (The Walt Disney Company). Some shows are delayed by a day after air, some for a week after air, some for several weeks. At this point, still the cheapest legal way to watch your content without buying it all individually, but you have to put up with commercials. Hulu Plus allows for streaming to devices outside of PC (consoles/phones/etc), and for access to back catalog. Often they will only have the most recent 5 or 6 episodes of current shows with earlier ones expiring as the series progresses.

Netflix/Amazon Prime Video - DVD-style content (other than original content), rotating content. Shows are bought and put up in entire seasons, no episodic updates. Generally the previous season is available for shows they are able to obtain a license for while the current season is airing. Oldest, but cheapest content. No commercials.

There are other competitors, but these are the only ones I've found with a wide content catalog. I have all 3 subscription services (amazon for the 2-day shipping, pays for itself well before we get to Christmas), Hulu Plus because we watch shows on the PS3 frequently, and Netflix because I still believe no one else can touch their depth of catalog. Unfortunately, I believe the industry is moving in the wrong direction, and we're only going to see more fragmentation and more content providers coming online as studios make a mad grab for their own piece of the pie. They were all caught with their pants down by Netflix's success (current stats say Netflix for accounts for about 30% of total internet traffic in the evenings), and they're trying to recoup anyway they can, as long as it's the wrong way.


Read an article this morning that helps outline why "current-TV-on-the-internet-with-no-commercials" hasn't happened, when it should have years ago:

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Apple's Promised TV Revolution Will Be More Of The Same Crap, Thanks To Terrified Cable & Broadcast Executives
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For countless years we've all been inundated with rumors that a television revolution would soon be delivered any day now by Apple, whose legendary former CEO at one point claimed he had "cracked the code" on delivering a truly disruptive, intuitive and innovative TV platform. Yet this miracle TV revolution never seems to materialize, and it's not (outside of perhaps Apple's marketing machine) really the fault of Apple. The road toward TV disruption is littered with the corpses of countless similar projects from the likes of Sony, Microsoft and Google. With a few small successes, every last one of them has inevitably run, face-first and at full-sprint, into a restrictive broadcast-industry content licensing wall used to prevent disruption.

The press certainly shares some of the blame as well for over-hyping products on demand, as most recently made evident by the collapse of Intel's TV ambitions. Intel's OnCue system was presented in 2012 as the next great TV revolution that was sure to arrive any day now. That was, until a slow drip of reports indicated that they too couldn't get around broadcast-industry licensing restrictions. That technology has since been sold on the cheap to Verizon, who'll utilize the useful bits and sit on the rest, afraid of offering anything that could possibly cannibalize their legacy TV FIOS user base.

Apple has been hammering their head against this same brick wall for the better part of a decade now, and even though the business and earnings potential of a well-built Apple-based hardware partnership could potentially be immense, the broadcast and cable industry is too terrified to budge. Rumors have ranged over the years from an Apple TV set to a live a la carte TV subscription service, and now have skidded to an underwhelming halt with Apple having to settle for what's just an Apple TV hardware and GUI refresh with a lovely coat of underachieved ambition. From the Wall Street Journal:
In 2012, the Journal reported that Apple was talking with cable operators like Time Warner Cable about a set-top box and was approaching media companies to gain rights for an ambitious Internet-based digital-video-recording service through the box. At the time, it was looking to offer full seasons of current shows, as well as live programming. Last year, it approached media companies with a proposal to pay extra for ad-free programming.

But it couldn't complete a deal. Programmers resisted the idea of ad-free TV, and Time Warner Cable balked at some of Apple's early proposals, which included Apple essentially taking over the cable operator's video-on-demand service.
Worse, the Journal notes, is that Apple was only able to acquire "just the most recent five episodes of current-season shows," and is having to battle for the ability to fast-forward commercials three days after they air (which they may not even get). So Apple's ambitions went from Steve Jobs dreaming about revolutionizing the sector, to yet another product intentionally hamstrung so it underwhelms (in much the same way the industry has relentlessly crippled Hulu). Can't you just feel the cutting edge excitement?

Many like to argue that Apple managed to help revolutionize music sales and can do the same here, but it's precisely the cable and broadcast executive fear of that history that has made securing flexible licenses such a Sisyphean feat. On the bright side, like any good disruption-phobic legacy industry, they can only delay inevitable evolution, not kill it. It might be Apple, it most-likely will be somebody else, and it may take the better part of the next decade -- but it's coming eventually whether the myopic and timid cable industry likes it or not.


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140213/12325726215/apples-tv-revolution-appears-to-be-more-same-thanks-largely-to-terrified-broadcasters.shtml


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I use roku for Netflix, hulu plus, amazon, Pandora, Aereo, Google music (need a third party app for that), and vudu. Vudu syncs to ultra violet and a bunch of other blu ray cloud options (when you buy a disc and activate their cloud digital version).

And I still say the best feature of the roku 3 is the remote's headphone feature.

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Vudu's super-handy. You can actually "convert" most of your old DVDs and Blu-rays to a Vudu digital copy for $1-2 each.


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Sadly, unlike Netflix, Vudu does more than pay lip service to international licensing. It's really hard to get it working here.

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I got the beta of the Roku screen mirroring feature on my Roku3. It's like Apple Airplay, but for Windows 8.1/Android devices. Works quite well so far...

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