The Glade 4.0

Especially as whites become marginalized enough (either policy-wise as stuff goes through, or population-wise) that you can't use "anti-white" as a unifying platform.

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Sure, but in a majority-white country (with an even more overwhelmingly white representation in popular media), white people are often instinctively perceived as being the baseline/default unless non-white status is specified. Moreover, "what white people think" is often perceived/presented as having nothing to do with their race, whereas "what non-white people think" is perceived/presented as being affected by racial politics/bias. So, when an article says millenials lean liberal yet 52% of white millenials favor smaller government, that feels like an inconsistency to many people at first blush, and the 71/21 split in the other direction among non-white millenials (which explains the overall "liberal" characterization) is subconsciously set aside rather than being viewed as a co-equal part of what millenials as a whole think. In short, the gut takeaway for a lot of people is, "Except among minorities, most millenials actually favor smaller government, so it's silly to say millenials lean liberal."

The conservatives have this ten times worse, by the way. You have the Tea Party/libertarian conservatives and the religious right, who disagree on pretty much everything except gun control.

Which is why I've pretty well given up on voting Republican. I'm just excited to think that the Democrats will be facing similar troubles in the near future. Then, maybe the threat of the other side's unity won't hold our nation hostage to a two-party farce.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

This is actually my concern. Amongst millennials at least it appears liberalism is no longer a unified political theory, instead you have people who identify it as a life-style choice rather than a philosophy or group of core beliefs. That would seem to indicate that people are voting liberal because they like to be called liberal rather than because they understand/buy into the policy choices of the people they are electing.

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So then the political landscape just shifts such that you get real liberals running and a bunch of LINOs trying to take advantage of that. A rose by any other name...

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

The country's ****. We need to start a new one on Mars.

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But then the latency to all of my favorite game servers is going to be horrible.

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The GOP and tea Party puppeteers continued siding with the religious right is the disturbing thing for me. I could be convinced to vote for a economic conservative if I felt they would not be manipulated or forced into voting for anti-abortion, anti-evolution, anti-science, anti-reproductive/marriage equality, fundamentalist agenda. I have yet to see a candidate who can fit that bill. In the end we're forced to vote away from the party who has the most odious practices in our own hot button issues.

I'm pragmatic enough to vote for a candidate who can win if it means a more repellent official doesn't take rise.

Republicans are no more anti science than Democrats. In fact, they both hate the same scientific discipline.

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^ That. If you took the Democratic anti-science firebrands and combined them with the Republican ones we'd be back to the stone age.

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That has not been my observation.

Let's peak under the Democrat anti-science movements:
Vaccinations
Nuclear Power
GMO
Holistic "Medicine"
Clean Fossil Fuels
Now I am sleepy, go here:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... n-science/

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While that may be true (and they agree on plenty more than that) liberals have a myriad of different conflicting agendas lumped under "not white males". It even includes a lot of the "religious right". "Religious right" really means "WHITE fundamentalists", while everyone pretends black fundamentalists and to a lesser extent Hispanic fundamentalists and Catholics don't exist and aren't voting against the party line on social issues. It even includes large numbers of those racial minorities that are socially conservative for CULTURAL reasons, despite not being particularly religious.. since "socially conservative" is a euphamism for "sexually conservative" in order to exclude social issues where the right is CLEARLY more freedom-oriented... like gun control, for example.

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You can add evolution under there too, unless you think black fundamentalist churches that vote democrat and lean liberal on anything else don't preach Creationism.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I didn't mean to suggest that there are not fundamentalists on the left side of the aisle. But that's not who gets them elected and in the end the elected officials end up voting with the loudest voices on 'their side'

It's a very substantial portion of who gets them elected - if you mean "elected President". They just don't vote FOR PRESIDENT on those issues because they vote their wallets. When it comes to Congressional, state, and local elections though, they're voting skin color; and that means people likely to represent the same religious and social views as their community. Issues like Prop 8 in California end as they do in a large part because of ostensibly "liberal" voters, while the left gets away with pretending that it's the "religious white right" doing it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Truth. In fact, if you want NASA funded as the absolutely-vital-to-the-future-of-humanity institution that it is, you pretty much have to vote GOP. Oh, they won't fund it ENOUGH, but the democrats tend to cut it more.

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