The Glade 4.0

Yeah, multiple warnings, prior suspensions, back on grace, and throwing warnings by a moderator back in their face....

Nitefox has been suspended for 1 month, with the possibility of a permanent ban on review.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

Jeebus! I intentionally stayed out of this topic, and it still turned into WW3.

Just let it go........let it go........it go......go...........g

It is the height of folly to postulate that because Lenas is personally unable to prove the age of the universe, that it must necessarily be an appeal to authority to assert any such age. It is no more an appeal to authority than reading an email when one is personally unable to demonstrate the routing path that it took to reach you.

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To be fair, I'm only an ******* in here. Its part of my idiom.

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Whatever makes you feel better.



So you posted it in Hellfire because you thought it might get a rise from people on the board. But you weren't trolling. Ok.

I don't think he is, he's just trolling because, I guess, he's bored.

Don't fall for it.

Edit:

Yep.

Here, and the Elder Scrolls forum.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

While that's quite true, the issue came up in response to people saying they "know" certain things. It was established long ago that it's perfectly acceptable in this forum to drag things off into the philosophical "but you don't KNOW that's true!" realm of philosophical masturbation when someone claims to just "know" something based on their personal certainty. Monty used to get bombarded with that all the time, although he was not the only one; quite a lot of threads fell victim to it.

Therefore, it's really not problematic that Amanar went off into that territory as well. You're right about the appeal to authority, but by the same token, people are claiming they "know" stuff with the same casual "I feel like it must be true therefore it is" that Monty used to get dogpiled for, and they're avoiding the same treatment becuase their arguments are more popular.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I posted something that I thought was funny and insightful and did a good job of light-heartedly getting at the crux of an issue that I'd been thinking about recently, but because I knew there was a chance a few people on the board might get all butthurt because the object of the satire is religious, that makes it trolling? Please.

Actually, I came across the comic in the course of following a series of blog debates centered on posts from prominent Catholic bloggers Ross Douthat and Rod Dreher complaining about exactly that. Their complaint is that they oppose gay marriage and think homosexuality is inherently sinful because of their religious convictions, not because they have any personal hatred or animus toward gays - indeed, their religious convictions also require them to love and pray for the souls of gay people - so it's terribly unfair and intolerant for people to call them bigots, and the kind of social ostracism and career risks faced by those who espouse such Christian beliefs constitutes a form of "persecution" (Dreher's own word for it). The comic is a direct send-up of that argument.

I'm not trying to derail this thread into philosophical masturbation. I'm not suggesting that we don't "know" anything. I'm just pointing out that the evidence for the age of the universe and a bunch of other scientific claims is the same kind of evidence many religious people use for their belief in God. There's nothing wrong with an appeal to authority in any of these instances. I trust the authority of scientists and those who have studied the sciences extensively about the nature of the universe, and many religious people trust the authority of the Bible or the Pope or other religious experts/leaders on the true nature of God and the universe.

I just think it's wrong to dismiss the religion and the Bible out of hand. It's evidence just like anything else. If you don't find it compelling, so be it. But it's not fiction.

On another note, many of you don't seem to grasp how little we understand about physics and the nature of the universe. We have two main theories in physics that are incredibly well researched and supported by observational evidence, and they explain 99% of what we see in the universe. Yet they are fundamentally incompatible with each other. One of them is necessarily wrong. How's that any different than all these Biblical inconsistencies?

And then the most popular resolution to this conflict is String Theory, which is not falsifiable and shows no possibility of evidence being able to support it in the near future. Physicists must simply have faith in it as a neat, beautiful explanation of why things are the way they are. It's eerily similar to religion.

No, I'm just honest in there.

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Ditto, actually. I have to admit that I tend to find vocal atheists much more annoying and obnoxious than vocal religious people, all things being equal, mostly because I feel like vocal atheists tend to assert their belief in the absence of God as a way of saying, "I'm smarter than you," whereas vocal religious people tend to assert their beliefs because they honestly want to "spread the good news", as it were. That's just in terms of people proselytizing, mind you, not people trying to impose their beliefs via violent intimidation or legal coercion.

Well, I hope you are happy with what you have done. I think you owe theRiov, Aizle, DE, and Nitefox an apology.

I'd much prefer that everyone keep their religious nonsense to themselves. Atheists included.

Maybe if we could shut the **** up about the bullshit, society could move forward in a meaningful manner.

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Honestly wrong, maybe.



By all means, have at it. No one's stopping you.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

It wasn't so much a matter of what you were doing as what used to happen when people did this sort of thing in the past.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I can't be wrong about my own opinion and observations. I think its a terrible game that will not be enjoyable for me. There's no wrongness in that. I think that PVP focused games have generally suffered in the endgame, this is also not wrong. I think that I despise PvP and the general PvPer culture. This is also not wrong.

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Now I'm starting to think you're just trolling me.

I don't post here a lot, but I would really hope that this is sarcasm. If not... I really don't know how to interpret it.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

No no. You're definitely wrong.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Heh.

Well played.

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Can we just lock this thread now please? It's never going to place nicely on the rails.

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What rails? There was hardly a point when it started.

No amount of cute animal pics in the random picture thread can offset the asshatery going on in here...