The Glade 4.0

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

I'm more surprised we haven't brought up Heartbleed yet.

Don't worry, The Glade is immune.

Why don't you post your take on it? All the news stories I've seen make him sound like a total nutter who has been mooching on Federal Lands for 20+ years after several reasonable attempts to get him to stop.

Yeah the act on which the BLM claim to exercise authoity over was passed in 1934 about 70 years after his family started ranching on the land.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

In removing Bundy's livestock from public lands, the park service and land bureau are carrying out two U.S. District Court orders from two different judges.

"Cattle have been grazing in trespass on public lands in Southern Nevada for more than two decades," the National Park Service said. "The BLM and NPS have made repeated attempts to resolve this matter administratively and judicially. Impoundment of cattle illegally grazing on public lands is an option of last resort."

Added the BLM: "Mr. Bundy has also failed to comply with multiple court orders to remove his cattle from the federal lands and to end the illegal trespass."

The bureau does allow grazing on federal lands -- it administers 18,000 grazing permits and leases on 157 million acres across the country, the agency said.

Bundy's dispute with the government began about 1993 when the bureau changed grazing rules for the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area to protect an endangered desert tortoise, KLAS reported.

Bundy refused to abide by the changes and stopped paying his grazing fees to the federal bureau, which he contends is infringing on state rights. His family has been ranching since the 1800s, before the U.S. Department of Interior was created and endangered species became a federal issue, he said in an interview with KLAS.

"My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877. All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water. I have been here longer. My rights are before the BLM even existed," Bundy told the station.

"With all these rangers and all this force that is out here, they are only after one man right now. They are after Cliven Bundy. Whether they want to incarcerate me or whether they want to shoot me in the back, they are after me. But that is not all that is at stake here. Your liberty and freedom is at stake," he continued.

And Bundy sees it as a state issue.

"The federal government has seized Nevada's sovereignty ... they have seized Nevada's laws and our public land. We have no access to our public land and that is only a little bit of it," he said.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

Bundy's dispute with the government began about 1993 when the bureau changed grazing rules for the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area to protect an endangered desert tortoise, KLAS reported.

Those tortoises have since been removed.

As for kicking the police dog... They shouldn't have been in a standoff over this. There shouldn't have been a police dog there. Its ridiculous the amount of force the BLM has brought forth.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

"By SHIREE BUNDY COX: I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight.
Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell.
My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.
These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars.
These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights.
Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches.
My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.
Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers.
They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees.
When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job.
He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.
So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.
In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business.
Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card.
You've already heard about the desert tortis.
Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years.
Now their desperate.
It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff.
Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America.
Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you.
They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

Its likely about money.
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Actually, Elko County is in NE NV, I thought Bundy was more north than it is. Its actually down here near Mesquite. Mea Culpa.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

He quit paying the grazing fees. Seems his problem is self-inflicted.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

How does their state government have any control over what a federal agency does with their federally owned land? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious if there is anything they could do through their state or local government to deal with this situation.

As for your statement about squatters... we have squatters rights for exactly that kind of situation.