The Glade 4.0

Natural forces such as... ? Tornados? Disasters are kind of outside the realm of natural selection.

Natural forces such as... ? Tornados? Disasters are kind of outside the realm of natural selection.

The fact that we modify our bodies, inject things into ourselves, take pills to remove pain or fix a disorder, combat shortcomings through technology... I'd say we're much closer to artificial selection than natural selection.

Natural selection **** you over by making you born a woman? Who cares! Have a doctor give you a dick and start making more money.

Tell that to the dinosaurs.

I'm not disagreeing with that, nor ignoring anything. I'm pointing out why those traditional influences are what they are, and that the forces that created those influences still are in play today. Furthermore, the opposite of the appeal to nature and appeal to tradition is also fallacious - just because something comes from nature or is traditional does not make it fallacious, nor bad.



So?

Just because someone is an activist does not mean they are striving against an evil, or are not replacing it with a new evil more to their liking.

Natural Selection requires a constant supply of mutations and outliers, which means we need to have more kids.

Now, some people would argue that humans have too many children. I disagree. I don't disagree we're overpopulating, but I do disagree we're having too many children. The problem is, natural selection is being circumvented, and a consequence the wrong people are having too many children.

In developed countries, the lower your socioeconomic status, the more children you are likely to have, and younger.

If a sixteen year old genius IQ gets knocked up and decides to keep her baby, she's almost guaranteed a life of struggling to make ends meet for herself. Meanwhile, we reward people with more welfare for having more kids. And a super-successful executive woman has to delay having kids until 40 (and thus increase the risk of mental defect in her kids) if she wants her career to go anywhere.

This is all the opposite of where things should be going. Our most successful, gifted people should be the ones having the most kids, and doing it younger. Our least talented people should often run into a situation not ever have the opportunity or resources to breed.

We've created a society that will regress, from an evolutionary perspective, and it's rather scary.

No, but we can't simply dismiss them by saying "hey, it's biology".

Feminists don't try to explain the root causes of sexism? I find that really hard to believe.

You don't strike me as the type of person who reads a lot of feminist literature... so enlighten me. What feminists have you studied that lead you to come to this conclusion that their only explanation of sexist social conditioning is misogyny?

It seems to me like you're putting words in their mouths.

Yeah, notice he cites no sources or facts, just his belief that "people aren't going to change" in the hidden message if you mouseover the comic in the main page?

Hell, even if that was right, "people aren't going to change" is the **** problem. Everything MUST change - if we stop evolving, we die. But it's ultimately worse than that.

And yes, the difference in number of children by socioeconomic class is a real thing:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 190921.htm

Yeah, it's a real thing, but you haven't demonstrated that that's a problem. And that's his point. We are not creating a race of Morlocks.

We also aren't creating a race of people better than their ancestors.

Isn't this exactly what's going on with the designer baby thing?

How about being better looking, smarter and immune to mental disorder? That sounds better.

That's kind of the goal of genetic engineering. Getting rid of things like Alzheimers. I'm not saying it's here and available today, but it's the goal that researchers have their sights set on.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin

I don't think artificially reducing genetic diversity is a stepping stone on the path to evolution.

In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin