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http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_report/living_planet_index2/

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The state of the world’s biodiversity appears worse than ever. Population sizes of vertebrate species measured by the LPI have halved over the last 40 years.
The Living Planet Index (LPI), which measures trends in thousands of vertebrate species populations, shows a decline of 52 per cent between 1970 and 2010. In other words, the number of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians and fish across the globe is, on average, about half the size it was 40 years ago. This is a much bigger decrease than has been reported previously, as a result of a new methodology which aims to be more representative of global biodiversity.
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Biodiversity is declining in both temperate and tropical regions, but the decline is greater in the tropics. The tropical LPI shows a 56 per cent reduction in 3,811 populations of 1,638 species from 1970 to 2010. The 6,569 populations of 1,606 species in the temperate LPI declined by 36 per cent over the same period. Latin America shows the most dramatic decline – a fall of 83 per cent.

Habitat loss and degradation, and exploitation through hunting and fishing, are the primary causes of decline. Climate change is the next most common primary threat, and is likely to put more pressure on populations in the future.

Terrestrial species declined by 39 per cent between 1970 and 2010, a trend that shows no sign of slowing down. The loss of habitat to make way for human land use – particularly for agriculture, urban development and energy production – continues to be a major threat, compounded by hunting.

The LPI for freshwater species shows an average decline of 76 per cent. The main threats to freshwater species are habitat loss and fragmentation, pollution and invasive species. Changes to water levels and freshwater system connectivity – for example through irrigation and hydropower dams – have a major impact on freshwater habitats.

Marine species declined 39 per cent between 1970 and 2010. The period from 1970 through to the mid-1980s experienced the steepest decline, after which there was some stability, before another recent period of decline. The steepest declines can be seen in the tropics and the Southern Ocean – species in decline include marine turtles, many sharks, and large migratory seabirds like the wandering albatross.


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This trend makes me think the world will be mostly a massive wasteland in the future.


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From 1970 to 2010, vertabrate populations dropped an average of 56%. One notable vertabrate has not been losing population, though. The population of Homo sapiens increased 86% over that same time frame (from 3.7 billion in 1970, to 6.9 billion in 2010).

You're not going to fix the former without correcting the latter. Earth's ecosystems cannot sustain our current population growth.

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Man, it's a good thing that nothing we do affects the planet or animals around us, right? I wonder what's killing all of those animals.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
This trend makes me think the world will be mostly a massive wasteland in the future.


"Wasteland" won't occur, though this is far more likely in the oceans. On land, it will just continue to become more anthropogenic. Less and less actual "nature".


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As we wipe out native populations of species, the more immediate impact will be the introduction and prevalence of invasive, more human-tolerant species. I can see a world where diversity is almost non-existent, and nearly every ecosystem in similar climates in the world has the same basic species dominating.


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In electrical and mechanical systems, that is what we call stability analysis. Will the system's natural response be driven to a stable value asymptotically or will it diverge? The natural response of the system is very strong and dominates in nature so it could be likely that the evolution of modern man is just the genesis of the next mass extinction event. Or maybe humans will die off significantly from the natural response of the system.

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Or rather than panicking, we could look at making usefulness to humans the primary driver for evolution on Earth.

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But Coro, that doesn't allow us to vote the government more power in order to fix it

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Corolinth wrote:
Or rather than panicking, we could look at making usefulness to humans the primary driver for evolution on Earth.


The problem with that is that ecosystems are extremely complex and interdependant. "Usefulness to humans" isn't something easily judged ... if the loss of a species not deemed "useful" results in a cataclysmic change in the food chain for many other species, we could see many species that ARE "useful" suddenly start disappearing. At that point it would be too late.

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All species will eventually become adorable or tasty to humans.

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Elmarnieh wrote:
All species will eventually become adorable or tasty to humans.



Not really the case.

Human development destroys habitat, but actually creates ideal environments for many vermin and pests (rodents, raccoons, insects. Also many birds, but they aren't usually pests), causing them to flourish in ways they never did before.

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Corolinth wrote:
Or rather than panicking, we could look at making usefulness to humans the primary driver for evolution on Earth.


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I'm willing to take the risk that alien whales may show up to chastise us if we **** up.

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Part of me wants ebola to spread faster just to help the ecosystem and wildlife.


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Why? What superiority do wildlife and the ecosystem have over us? Despite what Al gore would want you to believe, we're observably not in a place where things are so bad we're a threat to our own well being.

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Rorinthas wrote:
Why? What superiority do wildlife and the ecosystem have over us? Despite what Al gore would want you to believe, we're observably not in a place where things are so bad we're a threat to our own well being.


There's 7 billion people, which is plenty, so I would prefer some large nature reserves instead of people everywhere habitable.


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I'm willing to take the risk that alien whales may show up to chastise us if we **** up.


If they do you can be sure heros in a Klingon starship will arrive shortly thereafter to remedy the situation.

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I am surprised I don't see more fundamentalist christian types on the environmentalist bandwagon. Biblically, God charged Adam (and therefore his descendants) with being caretakers of the earth and the creatures on it. At the other end of the bible, John's Revelation (11:18) warns of destruction upon those that are "destroying the Earth." Seems to me that Environmentalism is a very biblical position to hold.

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That might be the case if "Environmentalism" wasn't a political strategy to cede power and direction over our lives and society to politicians, Talya.

Being good stewards of the Earth and Environmentalism might overlap, but their intersection is actually a pretty small portion of the Venn diagram.

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Well there ya go Taly, start your own Christian sect as environmentalists.

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Elmarnieh wrote:
Well there ya go Taly, start your own Christian sect as environmentalists.



There's so much wrong with the idea of me doing that.

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I don't see what makes you any different from a bishop; you've got a high level understanding of religion without actually believing in it.


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