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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:46 pm 
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Lenas wrote:
I don't see what makes you any different from a bishop; you've got a high level understanding of religion without actually believing in it.


Ah, but I prefer my romantic interests to be adults.

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Talya wrote:
I am surprised I don't see more fundamentalist christian types on the environmentalist bandwagon. Biblically, God charged Adam (and therefore his descendants) with being caretakers of the earth and the creatures on it. At the other end of the bible, John's Revelation (11:18) warns of destruction upon those that are "destroying the Earth." Seems to me that Environmentalism is a very biblical position to hold.

Speaking as a Christian fundy, I can tell you the spirit is there. I know several Christians who are hunters and are extremely conservative in every sense of the word. But they place full faith and support in state agencies like Game and Fish or the Forest services to keep balance.

Kinda like Kaffis said - they don't really get vocal because they don't want to be associated with Greenpeace. Heck, I don't think even the founder of Greenpeace wants to be associated with them anymore.

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There's certainly no conflict between conservatism or christianity and environmentalism.

Look at the Boy Scouts. Heavily devoted to conservation, and they are a christian org.


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I want to be a good steward of that which we have been given. I don't want being a good steward of that which we have been given to be an excuse to give the government more and more control over our daily lives, especially when its based on junk science like there hasn't been any global warming in 15 years.

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Rorinthas wrote:
I want to be a good steward of that which we have been given. I don't want being a good steward of that which we have been given to be an excuse to give the government more and more control over our daily lives, especially when its based on junk science like there hasn't been any global warming in 15 years.


Don't conflate environmentalism / conservation with global warming. There are very real conservation concerns if you ignore global warming completely. Most of it is compatible with common sense - over fishing, discharge of toxic pollutants, breakup of habitats into smaller and smaller areas, interruption of migration zones, etc. We all understand the codependent nature of ecosystems, and it's fairly intuitive that we should try not to throw the balance out of whack too much.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Don't conflate environmentalism / conservation with global warming. There are very real conservation concerns if you ignore global warming completely. Most of it is compatible with common sense - over fishing, discharge of toxic pollutants, breakup of habitats into smaller and smaller areas, interruption of migration zones, etc. We all understand the codependent nature of ecosystems, and it's fairly intuitive that we should try not to throw the balance out of whack too much.


Likewise, there are plenty of environmental and social reasons for us to reduce carbon emissions (or take other actions that would have a side effect of reducing carbon emissions) that have nothing to do with global warming. I see climate change as a non-issue because even if it's a real problem, it will either solve itself, or we'll have far worse problems in the near future than climate change.

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