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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:28 pm 
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according to "the urban scientist"

Because really the issue isn't figuring out how to even get to other planets, it's whether the people that die horribly when we **** it up include enough minorities and women.

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where do I apply to get back the IQ points I lost reading that article. I literally feel stupider after reading it.

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Neil deGrasse Tyson needs to slap this *****.

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The idea here is that social justice is supposed to come before scientific and technological advancement. Advancement of the species ultimately means culling those who don't keep up. This is a very upsetting idea if you're one of the ones that's going to be culled.

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While she's clearly a nutjob, we should absolutely consider the social aspects of sending a colony to mars.

For example, if you take our best and brightest, and discover that they are all white males over the age of 50, I would argue that's the makings of a disastrous (or at least short-lived) colony.

A colony should reflect the diversity necessary in a successful social community. Leaders, workers, variable ages, men/women, etc.

Now, how necessary it is for the initial foray to be representative of a long-term viable community is up for debate - they could just be there to prepare for such a community.

Lastly, does ethnicity matter? Maybe - depending on our thoughts for a long term societal structure. As with all things, we should start at the end goal, and work backward. How do we get there?

It's certainly an appropriate debate to have.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
While she's clearly a nutjob, we should absolutely consider the social aspects of sending a colony to mars.

For example, if you take our best and brightest, and discover that they are all white males over the age of 50, I would argue that's the makings of a disastrous (or at least short-lived) colony.

A colony should reflect the diversity necessary in a successful social community. Leaders, workers, variable ages, men/women, etc.

Now, how necessary it is for the initial foray to be representative of a long-term viable community is up for debate - they could just be there to prepare for such a community.

Lastly, does ethnicity matter? Maybe - depending on our thoughts for a long term societal structure. As with all things, we should start at the end goal, and work backward. How do we get there?

It's certainly an appropriate debate to have.


I don't think there's any actual debate over "will hypothetical colonists want to **** and have babies, and is it a good idea to provide for that if we want there to be any point at all in having a colony?"

Because, you know, a diverse community of males of many races and ages is not likely to be a big improvement over "white males over 50" in the longevity department.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
While she's clearly a nutjob, we should absolutely consider the social aspects of sending a colony to mars.

For example, if you take our best and brightest, and discover that they are all white males over the age of 50, I would argue that's the makings of a disastrous (or at least short-lived) colony.

A colony should reflect the diversity necessary in a successful social community. Leaders, workers, variable ages, men/women, etc.

Now, how necessary it is for the initial foray to be representative of a long-term viable community is up for debate - they could just be there to prepare for such a community.

Lastly, does ethnicity matter? Maybe - depending on our thoughts for a long term societal structure. As with all things, we should start at the end goal, and work backward. How do we get there?

It's certainly an appropriate debate to have.

Doesn't matter. In a single generation everyone would be a native Martian.

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I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure you'd want to say "Terran-Martian".

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shuyung wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure you'd want to say "Terran-Martian".


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shuyung wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure you'd want to say "Terran-Martian".

I was hoping someone would step up to spike that set.

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Corolinth wrote:
The idea here is that social justice is supposed to come before scientific and technological advancement. Advancement of the species ultimately means culling those who don't keep up. This is a very upsetting idea if you're one of the ones that's going to be culled.

Don't forget that Newton's Principia is a rapist handbook.

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