Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
Müs wrote:
The actual report Did you read it?
This is the very first line of the report following the introductory thanks to all involved, found on page 2 at the very top:
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Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs.
It's money, not "racism" driving the bias. The very first line of the report says so with no equivocation whatsoever.
For God's sake man. Here's the table of contents:
<snip big long table of contents>
entire sections devoted to how they are violating the law, have racial bias, violate the 14th amendment, etc.
I did not say they were not violating the law, did not say they did not have bias, and did not say they weren't violating the 14th amendment. I've also read the first 2/3 of the report and intend to finish the rest shortly, not just the table of contents. The sentence I quoted clearly states that their practices are **** "shaped by" revenue - in other words, that underlying motivation
is what drives the bias, Constitutional violations, etc, not "hurf durf cops are racist because reasons". The report itself even says so in the very next sentence after the one I quoted - which you might have realized if you had bothered to go past the table of contents in your search for an excuse to act exasperated at what I have to say:
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This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing, and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community.
That really should not be surprising, shocking, or controversial - when you are constantly telling your police to generate more citations, more revenue, and making it clear that's the measure of performance, that's what they're going to do. You can replace every officer, and even all the sergeants and lieutenants and if you don't fix the revenue focus at the top you will end up with more or less the same problem
no matter who you replace them with. You can replace them with 100% black officers and you will find the same "bias" in a year or so.
The report, read with a critical eye, starts off indicating severe, underlying structural problems in how Ferguson's police department is set up, with an overwhelming focus on revenue generation and a structure that reinforces this behavior - and the report reveals plans to move the Municipal Court from being under the Chief of Police (which is a bad idea in the first place) to putting it under the City Finance Manager (which is not only an even worse idea, but doesn't even make any sense -
except when you see your court as a means of generating revenue. It also indicates that this behavior is not reflective of neighboring departments - Ferguson consistently ranks extremely high in terms of percentage of municipal revenue taken from fines compared to other nearby cities.
This sort of problem extends, evidently, to all aspects of the police department to the point that it essentially ignores its own policies through neglect and does not engage in fundamental supervisory practices, neglects training.. the problems are extremely extensive, hence the length of the report.
There is a reason, however, that money is the very first thing mentioned in the line I quoted, and is presented before any of the other issues - it's the driver. It's the fundamental, underlying problem.
As to bias specifically, the report has its own problem in that regard - Ferguson is 67% black. It makes references to larger percentages than that being arrested, issued citations, etc. but then states in a single sentence that the investigation indicates this disparity cannot be accounted for by the different rates at which different races violate the law - but it has not, so far at least, actually provided any reason why this cannot be the case.
In particular, it states that Blacks receive 95% of all Manner of Walking in Roadway (a charge which basically says you have to walk on the sidewalk, or else walk against traffic on the side of the road, not down the **** middle of it, but which Eric Holder attempted to imply on TV was something more nefarious based on the ordinance's name alone) and 94% of all Failure to Comply charges.
Both charges are significant because both such behaviors pertain to the Michael Brown shooting. Michael Brown was violating the Walking in Roadway ordinance and proceeded to violate the Failure to Comply ordinance when Darren Wilson told him and his friend to utilize the sidewalk, right before assaulting Wilson. There is nothing unreasonable about a law saying you can't walk down the middle of the street, nor anything unreasonable about a law that allows an officer to instruct you to comply with the law (although the way the Ferguson PD has used Failure to Comply
in general is definitely unreasonable).
The evidence indicates that black people living in Ferguson regularly do things like walk down the middle of the street, and take exception when their behavior is called into question. Michael Brown is not the only example of this; merely the most outrageous. Coro pointed this out earlier in the thread:
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When white people aren't looking, the black community has the same opinion of black teenagers as thugs who need to pull their pants up. The reputation for violent thuggish behavior is not undeserved. This needs to be addressed as well.
Everything being said about the police having to re-evaluate their behavior and their policies applies equally to blacks. There are a lot of black people who are unfairly harassed. That is true. There is also a reason why blacks are viewed with suspicion, and that can't be ignored.
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Michael Brown is not some bizarre departure from the norm of a peaceful black community being preyed upon by racist police. While ALL of the discrimination and bias cannot be accounted for by racial behavior patterns (the internal e-mails of the department indicate this unequivocally; there is an unquestionable lack of concern with racial issues) , a great deal of it certainly
can be, and not just because of Brown's behavior. The behavior of the "witnesses" claiming Wilson shot him with his hands up reveal this pretty clearly too, ranging from merely lacking credibility in view of the physical evidence to the positively outrageously unbelievable. The most absurd example was one witness who admitted not seeing the shooting at all but claiming that he had because "it was just common sense" that Wilson must have shot Brown while he was trying to surrender.
As Taly points out there is a legitimate question as to which one is driving the other, and the answer is most likely "both" - each one feeds the other. The underlying problem in Ferguson, however, is money - the focus on citations, citations, citations and fines, fines, fines, means police are not being trained on or expected to interact with the community in a positive way. The issuance of citations on the slimmest excuse and the actions taken to enforce those unnecessary citations mean the police are not taken seriously in cases like Brown's where there really IS a meaningful violation going on - but by the same token, if the Ferguson police completely reform tomorrow, there is little reason to think we will see any actual change in the behavior of the local black community a year or 5 years from now. Indeed, if we were to revisit the community in 5 years and discover an impeccably reformed PD, we will still find blacks insisting they are being "harassed" because of the Mike Brown incident as if that incident and the patterns of behavior at that time mean any action taken towards a black person at all
must be harassment of some sort.
Jesse Jackson said in 1993 ""There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." This problem of black behavior is not unknown. Juan Williams made a similar point right after the Brown shooting.
Simply replying on a
news article about the report to say "hurf durf see cops racist like beating the black peepulz" isn't about actual concerns with the police in Ferguson or problems with the police at all - at the very least it totally ignores the fact that the court in Ferguson is as bad as the police department. It's about people needing to have their own attitudes towards the police confirmed.