The Glade 4.0

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Finally. Can we work on the **** that actually affects everyone now instead of this bullshit that only bigots and awful people have been fighting against?

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Holy shitsnacks!

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I had to drive down to Alabama today, to visit my grandmother before she passes. It didn't start raining on me until I crossed the state line into this shithole, and then it flooded. I presume they were Judge Roy Moore's tears. But then, this happened.



Arc of the moral universe, indeed. What a crazy, amazing, beautiful day.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Go back to zero, take a pill, and get well ~ Lemmy Kilmister

The SCOTUS Marriage Decision, in Haiku:



Sadly, that's a better, more accurately portrayed reading of most of the dissents than I've seen on any of the HuffPost articles people have been linking.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

The gays have dealt such a severe blow to Christian family values that they have retconned my entire life. I used to be a respectable man from a stable family. Now I'm a godless atheist working as a gay prostitute in San Francisco after being Recruited at the tender age of thirteen following my parents' bitter divorce. Gay marriage ruined my life.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

America will find, like Canada has over the last decade, that nobody notices that gays can marry after a very short period of time. It has no effect whatsoever on anyone's day to day life, except for the lives of homosexuals who get married.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I'm, like, ten years ahead of Rand Paul.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Whatever. I thought you were a Jew :p

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Holy shitsnacks!

Meh. Its all well and good until the government has to step in to protect the civil rights of the minority.

The government wouldn't have to say "Yes, X and Y can be married. Suck it up Buttercup." if people weren't such ******* bigots in the first place.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I don't disagree with the main point he's making - I'm actually offended that somehow love/marriage needs someone's approval to be "more valid." Government is neither qualified nor authorized to give that approval - only the individuals taking the vows are. **** government.

With that said, Rand Paul went off the far crazy end of the nutjob pool later in that statement, when he said:



Utter and complete idiocy. If there is a God, he/she/it had NOTHING to do with the constitution of the USA, or the people who wrote it. Your rights come from what you can claim for yourself through whatever means you use, nothing more. Even the vast majority of Christians would agree with me on this -- the entire concept that Jesus somehow favors this tiny minority of American Christians over all the other Christians in the world is offensive. The idea is more incoherent when you realize that the constitution was primarily written by, and America was primarily founded by non-Christian deists.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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The Gov't wouldn't have to say anything if the Gov't hadn't involved itself in the first place. The Gov't shouldn't be presiding over a marriage contract any more than it should preside over an employment contract, or a mortgage contract.

Sadly, most seem to think feel that the answer to problems created by the Gov't is always more Gov't.

It wouldn't matter if people were "such ******* bigots" if they weren't allowed access to other people's business by, wait for it, more Gov't.

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Sure. But as deism has sort of quietly died out, people read "endowed by our Creator" from many of the same authors as a more traditionally Christian statement in the founding documents of our nation. I recognize your offense, and then dismiss it because this is 'Murica, and we don't care about our hat's feelings.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Deism has died out because it was a transitory belief system. Deism is the belief that a creator God made the universe and then **** off for parts unknown, leaving its creation to fend for itself. It doesn't take Socrates to figure out where such a belief system ends up.

And that's why Christians are so dogged in their insistence that the founding fathers were Christian. It would be absolutely terrifying for them if they thought they lived under laws drafted by early proto-atheists.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

There's nothing "idiotic" about it, since everything said there is unknowable. You might take exception to people stating it as fact when it's unknowable, but you state your own unknowable beliefs as fact all the time because it drives you nuts hearing stuff like this. Calling it "idiocy" is about your own issues, not it actually being stupid.



This is true - but it doesn't stop people from pretending the vocal fundamentalists are the voice of all Christians or all Republicans when it's politically convenient, or just because it lets them pat themselves on the back for their imaginary moral superiority over a strawman.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

It wasn't like marriage was ever some carefree happy-go-lucky thing that "government" suddenly involved itself in. Marriage and government both evolved alongside each other from the first time some caveman had an argument with another over who had to provide meat to a female.

Government is pretty involved in contracts no matter what simply because they're contracts. Government has to step in to clean up the mess when there's a dispute. That's one of the basic functions of government - resolving disputes between citizens -, and it behooves us to have at least some standardized rules for contracts, particularly ones that, like marriage, are very very common and often not entered into under the circumstances of an abstract business contract. Marriage is inextricably linked to property rights and responsibilities for children; it cannot be disentangled without using far MORE government to re-make society from the ground up.

The best we can do is - as in this case - to recognize impractical and unnecessary burdens on people in regard to marriage and eliminate them.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Are they now?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

http://www.amazon.com/Faith-our-Foundin ... ng+fathers

great book on the subject, well footnoted. I'll get a kindle copy for anyone here willing to read it with an open mind. I realize it doesn't answer whether or not God was actually involved in the founding or not, but it does dispel the myth that everyone involved in the founding are enlighten deists or worse.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

"Deists or Worse?" So it dispels the myth that they are Deists or Christians?


Regardless, nobody has said "everyone involved in the founding" was a deist.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I wonder, is it anything like the article I read by a Catholic Apologetics professor at St. Louis University that the Inquisition protected the accused, and everything we've ever read about it in every history textbook ever published was just Protestant propaganda?

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Claiming something as incontrovertibly factual and historical - when there is absolutely no evidence to support it whatsoever, and even most others inclined to believe at least part of the story without evidence (the existence of a creator being) are going to disagree with the claimed fact, is absolutely idiotic. Using that as claim as an argument to support one's position is asinine.

At least for those who believe the bible - a couple of its many writers claimed divine inspiration. The founding fathers did not. Rand Paul sounds ready to add the US constitution and declaration of independance to bible canon.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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