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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:22 pm 
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... olumn.html
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California's champion water hog lives somewhere in Bel-Air, guzzling more gallons per year — 11.8 million — than any other homeowner in the state.

Who is the culprit?

This we do not know.

A June 1 story by the Center for Investigative Reporting did not reveal the name or address, because the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power refused to turn over that information.

But let's do some math.

Nearly 12 million gallons a year breaks down to about 1 million gallons a month and 32,000 gallons a day. That's enough for 90 average households.


While you're letting your lawn die and flushing the toilet every three days because we're in the midst of an epic drought, someone in one of the most affluent ZIP Codes in the country (90077) is hosing away 1,300 gallons of water hourly, and paying about $90,000 a year for the privilege.

You'd have to flush the toilet 6,400 times in a day to use 32,000 gallons.


More is in the full article. For some reason it doesn't surprise me that the ultra rich are extremely wasteful, and although it's their "right" to waste water, maybe they should make a multi-leveled cost system for water usage.


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Honestly, I don't give a **** about southern California's water problems. Move out of the goddamn desert.

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Or stop worrying about little fish.

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As many people as are in Southern California, the little fish are a problem, too. But the little fish are the ones advised to move someplace not a desert, someplace not experiencing drought conditions, where water is less expensive.

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It's not a desert! It's a Mediterranean climate. Although I will admit to calling it a desert when I'm frustrated with the place.

Also, there was a court case recently that declared some forms of tiered water rates illegal, I think because they aren't tied directly to the cost of providing the water. I'll have to look it up.

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This is a story all about how I
used up all the water in south cali

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This is a story all about how I
used up all the water in south cali


What do you do, take a **** 25 times a day?

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Should be easy to spot. It's the only one with grass

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Actually, it's funny - We turned off our sprinklers a few months ago, but my neighbor (husband is English) just keeps running them three or four times a week. The myopia is not just limited to the rich (and yes, I realize that, really, turning off the sprinklers probably doesn't do a whole lot of good in the big scheme of things).

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The problem isn't rich people watering their lawns and running their fountains. The problem is massive amounts of water usage by the agricultural industry.


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RangerDave wrote:
The problem isn't rich people watering their lawns and running their fountains. The problem is massive amounts of water usage by the agricultural industry.


If watering their lawns didn't matter, why do towns often have rules about it? Why meter the water usage at all?


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Because towns have no authority to impose their will on farmers, who many of who have water rights granted to them.

Lawn watering, car washing, toilet flushing, etc, is a small fraction of overall water usage, but small governments don't want to be perceived as unwilling to act, or uncaring (about the environment).

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I wouldn't call massive usage of water by the agricultural industry a problem, unless you don't like food.

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I wouldn't call massive usage of water by the agricultural industry a problem, unless you don't like food.


Well the question I have is where does most of the food go to? If it goes overseas, then the only thing it helps is our agricultural economy.


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It's not like we've got a gigantic **** country with all kinds of suitable places to grow almost every crop you can think of, so we're not forced to grow it in the desert.

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While true, I'm more willing to make allowances for producing farmers than I am for... let's say half of L.A.

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Diamondeye wrote:
It's not like we've got a gigantic **** country with all kinds of suitable places to grow almost every crop you can think of, so we're not forced to grow it in the desert.


That's true but I guess people like to live relatively close to metropolitan areas.


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It's not like we've got a gigantic **** country with all kinds of suitable places to grow almost every crop you can think of, so we're not forced to grow it in the desert.

This is true, however, there are crops that simply won't grow in, say, the Midwest. California's the big source of almonds and avocados for North America (though Mexico also puts out a bunch of avocados with a similar climate).

The thing that I find most hilarious? All the health-nuts who originated the avocado and almond milk crazes and exported them to the rest of the US live in the very region that is now going thirsty to fuel the country's organic, lactose-free, vegan demand...

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Well Matt Damon managed to grow potatoes on Mars...


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
It's not like we've got a gigantic **** country with all kinds of suitable places to grow almost every crop you can think of, so we're not forced to grow it in the desert.

This is true, however, there are crops that simply won't grow in, say, the Midwest. California's the big source of almonds and avocados for North America (though Mexico also puts out a bunch of avocados with a similar climate).

The thing that I find most hilarious? All the health-nuts who originated the avocado and almond milk crazes and exported them to the rest of the US live in the very region that is now going thirsty to fuel the country's organic, lactose-free, vegan demand...


You can't grow it in the Midwest, true, but a lot of that stuff can be grown in places like here in south Texas, or as you pointed out in Mexico. Avocados are like half the price here that they were in Ohio. Also, to be fair to the health nuts avocados are actually tasty unlike the vast majority of the godawful crap they think people should eat.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:

The thing that I find most hilarious? All the health-nuts who originated the avocado and almond milk crazes and exported them to the rest of the US live in the very region that is now going thirsty to fuel the country's organic, lactose-free, vegan demand...


I don't know much about how healthy it is (it's fairly fattening, I think), but Avocado is one of the yummiest things on earth.

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Rich in vitamins B, K, C, E and potassium. Yes they are also high in monounsaturated fat, but avocado consumption can help significantly with cholesterol reduction.


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Yeah, they're pretty much balls of fat, but it's good fat.


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