The Glade 4.0

That's not really passive. Just aggressive.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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There is nothing passive about that.. in fact I wouldn't even call it sniping.

Talya and Midgen are correct. I'm not sniping or being passive.

After reading your posts for several years, I finally decided to ask the question I'd been wondering for a long time. You answered.

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"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me." - Alice R. Longworth

"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash Williams

My assertion that I believe that, "Technically, Hillary didn't break any laws" is what convinced you of this? Ok dude. I know I've said some dumb **** in the past, but I think you've got some serious ideological issues if it was literally this that caused you to just start insulting me for no reason.

No, the fact that you continue to stand by assertions that are patently false is what brought me to my conclusion. There is nothing ideological about my feeling that you are stupid, only your posting history.

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"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me." - Alice R. Longworth

"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash Williams

"Patently false?" I don't think you know the meaning of that phrase. My position only requires one to believe what the director of the FBI says. Your position requires that Comey, Lynch, Obama, Hillary, and likely the DNC leadership are all in on a justice-subverting conspiracy. Not only do you believe that, but you also believe that any one that fails to see it as obviously true is an idiot. Like I said, ideological issues.

Since you can't understand the written word, here's a film strip.

https://www.facebook.com/libtardmedia/videos/1707741459443204/

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"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me." - Alice R. Longworth

"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash Williams

It's not illegal to lie to the public during a political campaign.

And your only measure for her fitness to be President of the United States is whether or not she broke any laws (that her lawyers can't get her out of) ?

Like I said before, I don't like Hillary. I just think she's less bad than Donald Trump. Sure, she's super arrogant and a liar and her record in the Middle East as Secretary of State is sketchy at best, but at least her political positions don't qualify as insanity. I mean you might not like her hardcore stance on gun control, and neither do I, but that's not an insane policy position like "default on the debt" or "build a wall" or "kick all Muslims out of the country" or "pull out of NATO and NAFTA" or "force China to give us our manufacturing jobs back, even if it results in a devastating trade war" or "deport all 11+ milllion illegal immigrants within two years, with no **** given if a six-figure death toll results." Trump is either as much of a liar as Hillary or has a serious lack of a grip on reality.

"less bad" should not be a reason to vote for the lady (if she can really be called anything other than a soul sucking beast from the depths of some unhallowed abyss).

Mind you I am not voting for the cockwombling jizz trumpet either.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Americans have had to choose the lesser of two evils (whether successfully or not) every four years since 1968.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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It's taken me a while to mull this over.

To begin, I must remind everyone that it is the position of the left that Donald Trump is utterly incompetent, yet still wields great power and influence. I am willing to concede this point to the left. It is possible to be utterly incompetent and still wield great power and influence, and Donald Trump is indeed such an individual.

The director of the FBI did not determine that Hillary Clinton was innocent of wrongdoing, and broke no laws. He determined that she unwittingly broke the law, and behaved with gross negligence. In essence, while she broke the law, she is merely a helpless little old lady who doesn't understand her computer, and that is not something we put people in jail for.

The right doesn't buy this argument, and understandably so because Hillary Clinton has been trying to convince the American people that she is a strong independent woman who deserves to be the first female President of the United States since 1992. Furthermore, the FBI did recommend that David Petraeus be prosecuted, despite that his mishandling of classified information also appears to be unwitting. Presumably, this is under the assumption that as a general and as director of the CIA he should have known better and his inability to handle this information properly indicates he was unfit for either position. David Petraeus was forced to resign.

If David Petraeus was unfit for his office and should have resigned, what does this mean for Hillary Clinton? Secretary of State is a much higher ranking position than anything Petraeus held, and has access to the same security advisors that the president does. Surely if a CIA director should know better, the Secretary of State should also know better, but apparently Hillary is just a helpless little old lady who didn't know what she was doing. By insisting that Hillary should not face legal repercussions for her email scandal, the left is formally acknowledging that Hillary Clinton is utterly incompetent and only held her position as Secretary of State because she wields great power and influence and President Obama owed her a political favor for helping him secure the 2008 election.

Hillary's capacity to handle classified information responsibly can't be expected to improve if she's president. Maybe she shouldn't be prosecuted, but that's not the same as being fit for the presidency. Helpless little old ladies aren't fit to be President of the United States. They need to be at home in their rocking chairs.

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It should also be pointed out that David Petraeus stored his unauthorized classification in a notebook locked in his desk, inside his guarded residence. Not only are notebooks notoriously difficult to hack without getting into the residence itself, but - in addition to the actual guards - General Petraeus himself will probably **** kill you if you break into his house.

There's also the fact that the only person he showed it to held a security clearance herself. While she had no need to know it and he should not have either held the information in that manner or revealed it to her, the fact remains that as a practical matter it didn't reach anywhere near the sort of breach that storing that information on a server did.

There's also the fact that he lied to the FBI, which is notorious for making the FBI very grouchy indeed, and had he not done so this security breach would have remained (legally) as minor as it really was. Then we could have gotten along to the more important business of him cheating on his wife with an attractive, but scheming and conniving ***** who practically threw herself at him and was - in the words of his staff - a "stranger to modesty." If you've ever seen what Holly Petraeus actually looks like.. well, it doesn't excuse him cheating, but it certainly does explain it, especially after being deployed over and over. Notably, the woman he cheated with was a Reserve field-grade officer, not some intern, or private, or even sergeant and should damn well have known better herself. Unlike a certain other person, there weren't any allegations of sexual assault.

On a personal note, I was deeply satisfied when her promotion to Lieutenant Colonel was revoked, since I'll now outrank the ignorant ***** in a few years.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Wait, wait, wait - you don't include 1964? Goldwater? Crap. I was 4 at the time, and to this day remember that even years later, he was considered a nutjob.

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Is all I`ll ever know
So when you get to heaven
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The Democratic Party indeed did a masterful job of making Goldwater look like a nutjob.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I actually have no opinions or knowledge of LBJ or Goldwater.

And to be fair, I don't know anything about Nixon's competition in 1968, but if Nixon was the best you could elect, the choices were poor.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

Nixon had a lot of successes, and really didn't look nearly as bad in 1968 as he does with the benefit of hindsight.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Heh, except that he was a nutjob. Just a highly functional one.

Hubert Humphrey in 1968 was sort of bland, kind of like that other presidential candidate from Minnesota. I don't know if he was so much of an evil, though.

Of course, I have to go look him up in Wikipedia, and I see this:



Of course, there was also this little nugget:



Probably a more interesting guy than I remember.

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This cold and dark tormented hell
Is all I`ll ever know
So when you get to heaven
May the devil be the judge

"Highly functional nutjob" is just another way of saying "he was portrayed as a nutjob to win an election." He was running against LBJ after all.

He appeared to be a "nutjob" because he was a Major General in the Air Force Reserve and knew an awful lot about nuclear weapons that the public didn't, and made his statements on that basis. What he forgot was that made him vulnerable to TV ads with little girls counting flowers because the public wasn't about to suddenly gain that understanding.

Not unlike Trump today, actually. Worries about Trump "having the nuclear codes" are so vapid and insincere as to be alarming in and of themselves. It seems there is no length the media will not go to for attention and crisis - no subject is too serious to generate misconceptions over if they feed the desire for ratings and readership.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Why are these not legitimate concerns? That man should not have that kind of power.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Ditto. There is absolutely nothing about Trump's character or temperament that suggests he would be a responsible and careful CINC.

Beep boop. Boop beep. This is your Automated Moderation System.

I know this is Hellfire but it's been a long time since we've seen a post reported. Please remain civil.

That's a statement you can apply to every presidential candidate for at least the last 40 years.

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Because he won't have that kind of power. The President cannot launch a first strike without confirmation from SECDEF or another elected or confirmed person.

If you actually think that this person would do so - or that even Trump would do so - for entirely trivial reasons - you are entirely too stupid or too concerned with confirming your own prejudices to have opinions at all. Cynicism is not analysis. Donald Trump is rude, boorish, insensitive, crude, and a number of other socially objectionable attributes. He is not the least bit interested in seeing the country reduced to a pile of rubble. That's just being silly. When Donald Trump asks "if we have them, why can't we use them?" that does not mean "I want to use them", it means "I don't understand why we don't." This should not be a surprise - he's a businessman. Even the President doesn't need to know all the ins and outs of targeting, attack options, etc. - that's all worked out in advance by people pouring over maps with pie cutters all day.

Having one's figure on the nuclear trigger tends to moderate temperments. Castro was egging the Soviets on to nuke the U.S. in 1963 - the men with the nukes backed down. Mao used a lot of aggressive rhetoric - nuclear China suddenly became very reserved. India and Pakistan eye each other warily, but their wars are pretty much slapfights these days. Israel in 1973 fearing total collapse prepared its weapons for use in such a way as to be easily detected, hoping to get the Soviets and the U.S. to put an end to things - they were trying to avoid having to actually use one.

The fact that at a Presidential debate a reporter would actually ask whether another candidate thinks that because Trump said something mean about her, does she therefore think he would start a nuclear war is proof positive that no one seriously thinks he would actually do it. If people seriously thought Trump would start a nuclear war - if there were ANY real indicator of that - no other issue would be newsworthy. You're not even worried about it. It's something you say on the internet. Our entire nuclear force is atrophying and decaying and has been for decades but no one cares about that; "lol lookit Trump gunna start sum nuke **** don't vote 4 him" is evidently way more fun.

And I'm taking a page from Coro's book and not giving a class on nuclear weapons. I've spent hundreds of hours both professionally and personally on these and related issues. I've spoken to some of the pie-cutter professionals mentioned above. I am not teaching a course on nukes for **** free.

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