The Glade 4.0

All 3 branches will be red, along with USSC majority going forward. Hope everyone likes Republican's brand of conservatism. We are about to get that for a while. Like it or not.

My wife is asleep, so I will wait until tomorrow to go grab her in the pussy.

Australia, the country that ships illegal immigrants off to literal concentration camps, is not the country you want to flee to if you want to avoid Trump's politics.

I'm not worried about the US. I'm worried about Europe. If Trump makes good on his rhetoric to buddy up with Russia and pull back from NATO.....they're so **** I can't even imagine how bad it's going to be. Germany is a country that has built its entire national identity around anti-Militarism since WW2. If they're suddenly forced to pay for and train an actual killing military out of their 1.2 children per woman generation.....it's going to be bad. I mean that is literally an existential threat to Germany's current existence, and by extension the entire EU with it.

No need, the Canadian Immigration Website crashed about 4 hours ago. Will probably be in accessible for a few weeks :p

LOL! Trump's post-speech music is "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Rolling Stones. I'm utterly shocked and appalled that this guy is now our President-elect, but I gotta give him credit: that's some A-level trolling.

Well,

I'm honestly not sure how to feel. This entire campaign season has been like a really bad movie.

One one hand, we just elected Donald Fscking Trump President of the United States of America.

DONALD.FSCKING.TRUMP!

On the other hand, the American people have expressed their frustration with status quo politics to the point of electing Donald Fscking Trump over a career politician who's nomination to the Presidency was paved in gold, and had the support of almost every major "news" organization in this country.

I don't have much confidence that he's going to be particularly effective, but I also doubt that he will be as ineffective (or dangerous) as some people expect.

It's the closest thing to a revolution we'll likely ever have, at least in our lifetimes.

Donald Trump is a racist piece of **** and doesn't deserve to run our country. Truly a sad day for us all.

I'm applying for a passport tomorrow. My last one expired a few years ago. If I get the chance to visit Australia I'll let you know well ahead of time. Do you have a strong expatriate community there?

I did visit there for a couple weeks 25 years ago. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Hobart were the cities I visited. Tasmania really impressed me, but I enjoyed all of them. It would be nice to see the rest of the country someday.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I have never been this far off on an election before. This is the first time since I started paying attention to politics I was wrong about who would be elected. That was 1976 by the way.

I won't be fleeing the country per se, but I will try to spend some time abroad. There is so much of the world I've never seen and not that many years left for me to do it.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I am so very glad I retired earlier this year. I feel pretty bad for anyone who has to serve under Trump (to be fair I'd have felt the same if Hillary won).

Anyone with that warped a view of reality is amazingly unqualified to manage national defense, because God will be part of his defense planning. And in the unlikely event that there's a god up there, they don't give a **** about America's defense. Or even existence.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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So far, the election of Donald Trump has crashed the stock market in ways that 9/11 only dreamed of.

There will be far more important, far more human costs to come, prices that will be paid in pain and tears and ruined lives. But I'm putting this out there as an immediate, concrete indicator of the results of this choice.

I'm pretty sure the President doesn't actually do the defense planning himself. Aside from maybe Eisenhower, no President is actually qualified do that. The President has military advisors that do the planning and give him a bunch of options alongside the likely consequences, and he makes a moral/political decision and chooses one.

The YEC thing completely baffles me, to be honest. I don't actually understand how people can have that particular belief system and still achieve what they do. Ben Carson is a YEC, yet he still managed to, while only 32 years old, become chief of pediatric neurosurgery at a major hospital. He did this despite the fact that YEC beliefs are pretty much totally incompatible with the theories that underpin biology and medicine.

The market will recover, and probably fairly quickly. I've heard several analysts this morning suggesting that's a good buying opportunity, and, in the long run, people who take advantage of it stand to make a lot of money off of the fools who panic'd and sold everything.

I didn't vote for him, but probably feel more comfortable with him at the helm than Clinton. I'm not here to gloat though.

I'd like to encourage people that felt they lost to push the Democrat party to clean house. Remember what made President Obama's first campaign successful. Start bringing a message of hope and change that doesn't reduce people to racists or retards for not agreeing. Engage with people in person who disagree with you and try to understand their concerns without assuming the worst of character flaws before you attempt to show them a better way. There was a higher ground people aspired to, something Americans wanted to feel part of, that didn't focus on how bad they felt the other team was

We, the people, are America. The people are sovereign, not the President. This country always trends forward on human rights, and you have my pledge that I will do my part to police Republicans if I see that trend reversing.

Peace. Love. Hope (or in Lenas's case: Dope).

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The Dude abides.

In past discussions here I’ve been told that my vote doesn’t matter. I’ve been told that the average middle class guy is irrelevant, that king makers, political elite, and the media will pick the next president even before the election is held. I’ve been told that the win goes to the guy that spends the most money. I’ve been told that the candidate that tells people what they want to hear always wins over the candidate that calls it as he sees it. The outsider can never win.

I’ve been told that my patriotism was out dated, that the neo-liberal new world order was inevitable, that nationalism was wrong and the people that held those beliefs were the minority, out of touch…and slowly, I came to believe what I was told and I quit all discussions here after I became convinced that I was the one out of touch, an old man with old ideas.

I was wrong. It’s the talking heads that are out of touch. It’s the people that identify with a political party that are out of touch, and the political parties themselves have overwhelmingly proven just how out of touch they are. All the ‘really really smart people” have egg on their faces, ‘cause they said it couldn’t… shouldn’t … be done, and they’ll be frantic in the coming days to blame the voters for what they see as a mistake.

That’s not to say that I’m a Trump supporter. I’m far from it. In my opinion, Trump is a douche. He didn’t win, Hillary lost. She lost me irreparably after Benghazi, at “what difference does it make” when defending her actions as Secretary of State when it was her job to make a difference for those she was responsible for. Then she went and set up her own email server ‘cause she wanted to talk to friends and family about yoga and Chelsea’s wedding.

Scared that Trump is your Commander and Chief? In my opinion, you dodged a bullet. She’d have sent you into harms way in a second if it were politically expedient, and her desire to have the world recognize her power would have set the stage.

However...

Yesterday proved that in the USA every vote matters. Now there will be 4 years for the government to prove that the framers of the Constitution had the right idea… because each branch of the government will has its own powers and responsibilities where no one branch is beholden to the other. We’ll see if each branch, working with the other branches, is the way to protect the rights of the citizens and work to bring prosperity. The chance of collusion is slight - Trump owes no one for his victory except the citizens of the USA. It’s a great day!

Or not. Heck, it can’t be worse than the last 8 years.

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In time, this too shall pass.

I don't understand this.

The world --and America-- is safer today than it ever has been in human history.
The American people, from the poorest to the richest, are also more prosperous today than they ever have been in human history.
America is more free today than it ever has been in human history.

What was the problem over the last 8 years?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I know, intellectually, that many people who voted for Donald Trump are not racists. However, they voted for a man who called most immigrants rapists and murderers, whose main platform is banning people of a specific religion from entering the country, and who is fully backed by the Ku Klux Klan.

I know, intellectually, that many people who voted for Donald Trump are not stupid. However, they voted for a man who lies as quickly and easily as he breathes.

I know, intellectually, that many people who voted for Donald Trump are not misogynists. However, they voted for a man who commits sexual assault, and openly brags about it (particularly galling since they are largely the same voters terrified of the imagined likelihood of trans people infiltrating their bathrooms at Target and assaulting them).

There are American citizens, friends, neighbors, lovers and family, who will awaken today and face legitimate danger. They are not abstract concepts for your outrage. There will be actual physical and mental threats to their wellbeing, and their lives. We saw it begin in the wake of the Brexit vote; turns out that demonizing entire groups of people has an effect. All because of the legitimization of the worst dregs of the populace. Even if Clinton had won this by the skin of her teeth, a Pandora's box has been opened.

Hold those people tightly to you. Protect them with your privilege. Be a repudiation of the fear, anger and ignorance that have been unleashed upon our country.

If I recall correctly, we've had a terrorist attack just about every year since Obama has been President. By what metric are measuring safety?

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The Dude abides.

So this looks nice, I think. Would you all be willing to weep your tears into it, that I may drink deep of your suffering and agony?

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Well, that was unexpected...

I'm bummed that Johnson didn't reach 5%. I really would love to see the unraveling of the 'two-party' stranglehold on US politics.

As for the result, I can't say I'm happy to have Trump as president, but I'm less disappointed than if Clinton had won.

I hope that Trump will surround himself with good advisers and display the temperance to trust in their expertise. I suspect that he has the potential to turn out to be more moderate than his campaign image and than the hair-pullers on the left are fearing. Maybe.

This, to me, is the biggest tragedy this cycle.

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The Dude abides.

We had rule by fiat for the last eight years. We had 2 years of total Democratic control of the executive and legislative branches of government with total disregard of (apparently) the will of the people, and 6 years of executive orders that bypassed legislative review.

Middle class prosperity?



As far as being "more free"... well, look to the definition of the word:

I can argue ad nauseam that we're not "more free"

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In time, this too shall pass.

We're not. Russia and China are both asserting themselves in ways they have not in decades, and Russia is expanding its nuclear arsenal at a time it has a treaty commitment to reduce it.


Income relative to the value of the dollar is actually lower than it was in 1999, and despite theoretical economic recovery



LOL, no it isn't, and it was about to get less free. The First Amendment was in serious danger due to the campaign to paint censorship as some sort of "Get money out of elections" crusade, and the 2nd Amendment was about to become a total loss, because liberal justices have far less respect for precedent than conservative justices do. College campuses have become virtual socialist boot camps, between speech codes that make them a hostile environment for young peopl of even center-left bents, to say nothing of anything to the right of that, and function as an end run around the criminal justice system. Just for a few examples.



Let's see...

Libya
Syria
ISIS
Russia
China
Obamacare
IRS targeting
apparent lack of applicability of standards for classified information if you're a Clinton henchman or a Clinton
Economic recovery
An entirely fictitious narrative of "open season on blacks"

Just to get started.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

So, I guess rather than learn from the mistakes that led to Trump's election, we're going to double down on the leftist absurdities. I guess you're going to need this:

Or you can utilize this.

Maybe you'll luck out and get to sit next to Amy Schumer or soemthing.
Maybe you can sit next to Amy Schumer.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I'm not scared of Trump as Commander in Chief, at least not in that regard. Hillary was the one essentially threatening war with Russia over some Syrians while everyone scoffed at Trump's "smarter than the generals" comments.

But the enemy gets a vote, and I'm not sure how they will vote now, when it comes time to cast it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."