The Glade 4.0

Watch out for these truth bombs!

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

This is an excellent post. Thanks.

Evidently TransCanada is expecting the Keystone XL Pipeline that Obama nixed to go through within the first week of the Trump presidency, as the president can approve it without any additional work.

(I get that Oil's not exactly Climate-change friendly, I really do. But you're using it anyway. Shipping it by train just makes it more expensive, and uses even more fuel to ship it.)

I get that most presidents rarely accomplish 10% of what they set out to do. Another of Trump's promises was to get NASA funding up to historical highs (indexed to inflation) and make it about exploration again rather than orbital maintenance. Since we're stuck with him anyway, I hope he makes good on these promises. Silver linings.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Also, TPP is likely not going to be a thing now. So... I guess that's ok.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I'm excited at the prospects of a Constitutional Convention being called with Republicans now controlling more than 2/3 of State legislatures.

I could see, very realistically the recodifying of the 1st and 2nd Amendments, steeling them against attacks for the next 100 years of more.

As more of a stretch goal, there could be the potential to abolish the IRS and institute a new system of taxation.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Also, while Trump being president sucks (and Mike Pence being VP actually sucks worse), neither of that changes the fact that Hillary not being president is a good thing.

Think of it this way - Going into Iraq, in retrospect, was a bad decision. The power vacuum that removing Saddam Hussein created is entirely responsible for the creation of ISIL. Iraq and other countries around it are suffering far worse violence than Hussein ever meted out. We'd have been better off leaving him there.

So... does that mean you should feel bad for that vicious monster or his sons? While the results might be worse, nobody deserved their fate more than those bastards. The fact that he's not in charge of Iraq is a GOOD thing, independent of anything else.

Hillary was a terrible candidate. No, I don't buy the criminal bullshit. The email crap was all just a (successful) scam, like questioning John Kerry's war record was. So was Benghazi. None of that matters at all, and she's pretty much blameless in all of it.

She's still a terrible candidate. She relies on victim politics, and talks down to everyone who disagrees with her, giving a "mother knows best" attitude toward an entire country. She would have wasted American lives and possibly started a war with Russia. And she's got the same problem Trump does - she's only concerned with one thing - her own ambitions, and **** anyone else who gets in her way.

I am not convinced Trump was a better choice. I think you have elected your ISIL in place of Saddam Hussein. Trump may be worse, but that doesn't change the fact that she was really **** bad.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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What changes would you want in order to strengthen them? And aren't you worried that it would mean losing the last 100 years of protective SC precedent?

No, she isn't.

In regard to Benghazi, she for some reason thought it was a good diea to set up an "embassy" in a barely-functional country with no security fore whatseover.

In regard to the e-mails, having classified information stored in a non-approved manner is illegal, and so is lying to the FBI. This sort of thing is what got Petraeus in trouble, Cartwright in trouble and Manning in trouble (though in his case he did it intentionally) , and numerous other people over the years. Hillary got a pass because she was Hillary Clinton.

There is absolutely no room for debate on this. Comey did not even say she didn't break the law; he said a prosecutor wouldn't bring the case, after the entire investigation was hamstrung by excessive immunity deals.

This is absolutely nothing like what happened to John Kerry, or for that matter, the fabricated letters about Bush. Hillary Clinton went out of her way to create a system to avoid the rules on classified information and government records, and did a bad job of evading the law to boot.

End of story.



Trump is better if for no other reason than he's not of the opinion that it's a good idea to get into a war with Russia over Syria. Despite all the nonsense about him being "in Putin's pocket", I have yet to hear why amicable relations with Russia are a BAD thing. Preferably without a stupid reset button.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

You're much better off with a targeted amendment, such as for example removing the militia clause. A Constitutional Convention is at best, a crapshoot. Merely having Republicans in charge of legislatures is hardly a guarantee of not getting an immense amount of stupid along with the good. We don't need to entertain certain fantasies about abortion or gay marriage, for example.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Which isn't illegal.


I've seen nothing convincing. Just rhetoric like this. Lots of people screaming about stuff they have NO idea about. Nobody knows what happened there. The FBI doesn't, hell, Clinton probably doesn't. And they'd know better than anyone who was complaining about it. Until it's proven in a court of law, it didn't happen. If it doesn't go to court, then it also didn't happen.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I dunno, I think DE does know a bit about handling classified info, as do I. We don't have much info on the whole situation, which just makes it look that much more suspicious.

I mean, I could see it not being her fault somehow. At the same time, if someone in such a powerful position in the DoD hierarchy did act badly, they shouldn't go unpunished. The idea that "no one knows" what happened to classified info is unacceptable. I would expect someone in her position to have higher standards for herself and those under her.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I live very close to the 2000 olympic site in Sydney. If you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods, I'd love to take you out for the best steak and seafood this side of the world.

Awesome. I'll bring you hard copies of my books...you know. In case you need to weight something down.

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Raell Kromwell

I didn't say he doesn't know about handling classified info. Your second part is my point: We don't have much info on the whole situation. And it's not a matter of public record, so we're complaining about stuff we don't know anything about and never will.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Well yeah. I AGREE! SO THERE!!!11

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I handled classified information for most of the 20 years of my life I spent in the Air Force, including the highest level of Top Secret.

That **** is classified for a reason. Mishandling classified information, even something as simple as leaving a document laying on a desk uncovered, can (and should) result in a courts martial.

Setting up a non-classified email server and putting classified information on it is the digital worlds equivalent of mishandling classified documents.

You say no one really knows exactly what happened, and guess what? That's EXACTLY the problem. For all we know it got into the wrong hands, and as a result people died, years of deep cover operations were lost, or any number of other possibilities. We dont know, and we will never know the nature of what was sent and recieved through that server, whether it was ever compromised, and if it were, what might have happened as a result.

It's hard enough to protect classified information when it's handled properly and kept where it should be. The fact that i was on a physically unprotected server in a datacenter with no real security, and was administered by people that didn't have security clearances could not be a better example of mishandling classified information. It should be shown as a shining example of what NOT to do.

I don't know much about laws outside of the scope of the military, and how they would apply to the Secretary of State, but I'm sorry, the fact that that server even existed, and had classified information on it (a fact she admitted) should, at the very least, be a prosecutable level of stupidity. Barring having laws that actually apply to her in this situation (which apparently we don't), at the very least, the Commander in Chief should have revoked her security clearance and asked her to step down immediately.

Yes, the lack over oversight is more of a problem than what might have been in the files to begin with.

I'm glad you're here for when I'm at a loss for words.

People who told me about White House Comm always made it seem like a nightmare. I imagine the IT crew for heads like SoS must have a **** to deal with. The problem with VIPs is they all think they're more VIP than every other VIP and they all shout at your boss to shout at you to do stuff that's impossible.

You want to view TS on your iPhone?

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Yea, I was lucky in that I served before mobile data was really a thing, and worked on systems that were static and isolated (Cheyene Mountain AFS).

I couldn't imagine trying to keep classified information under control in this day and age.

On this we are in full agreement.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

She wasn't investigated for that as a crime. The Banghazi hearings were held by Congress, which is well within its rights to do so as a matter of Constitutional oversight.



It doesn't matter if you've seen anything convincing or not, because you don't need to be convinced. This isn't a matter of opinion. I do, in fact, know that she's guilty because I know what the rules are. One of my daily responsibilities includes control of a classified information storage facility (remember I don't chase aliens in the brush any more; it's bigger and better things for me) and I also handle the SF-312 and briefings for clearance holders in my organization on their responsibilities in that regard - so yes, I **** know, and if I'm telling you that she broke the law based on the information, either you better trot out some NEW information (which you admited you don't have, and neither does anyone else) or say "oh gee DE, I didn't realize that."

And yes, it did happen regardless if it was proven in a court of law, just like OJ did in fact kill 2 people. The facts are the facts, regardless if a case is pursued. At the very least, her clearance should ahve been revoked and she should have gotten no classified briefings during the campaign (and if that meant Trump had to wait as well - fine)

You arguing with me here would be no better than me arguing with you on networking protocols, or someone arguing with Coro about how an electric motor works. You're arguing facts as if they were matters of opinions because you want to hold onto your beliefs about the election. If you're going to engage in this sort of behavior don't whine in the future about people holding beliefs you think are "nonsense" because right now you're acting like the Creationists you like to complain about and you're arguing with someone who's a physicist by comparison.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I'm not arguing protocols. I'm arguing that none of us have ANY idea what happened, who did it or what the facts were. You don't know that she did anything at all. You are making assumptions that she broke protocols. You don't know that she arranged for an unprotected server. You don't know that she had any idea that her emails were in a less secure location. Someone did, but based on my interactions with the average highly educated, otherwise competent non-IT 60 year old, most of them don't know the difference between a computer and their monitor, or the internet and a CD ROM drive. For all we know, this was just a ridiculous IT **** up, and she was following instructions provided. It actually requires some IT expertise to **** up that badly.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I do know that she broke protocols and laws based on what Jim Comey testified to, under oath, in Congress. It is explicitly clear. I am not making any assumptions at all. What I'm also not doing is giving free classes on the matter. You don't live or vote here and won't be handling classified information so if your opinion is so precious to you that you don't want to believe me, fine. I'm taking a page from Coro here and not giving free training.

It's $25 an hour if anyone expects me to waste time on this.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

You realize you are saying you know it's a fact because some guy who is also not an IT professional and appears to have used his credentials, against the orders of the attorney general, to intentionally sabotage Clinton's campaign, said so.

By the same logic, I could "know" that Donald Trump is a rapist, many times over.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

Trump has amicable relations with Russia, but he's going to be butting heads with China very soon. Threatening a 35% import tax is threatening China's very existence, and they have nukes too. This is the guy that says he's going to build what amounts to a "**** off, Mexico" monument and make THEM pay for it. How sure are you that it's not going to go to absolute **** if he starts acting this way towards China?

Laws were absolutely broken by Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... erver.html


https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/faqs/federal.html

It's been verified that federal communications were conducted on the server and it's been verified that the server was wiped sometime between March 25-31, 2015.

It's a self-inflicted injury.

And as to Benghazi, no, the failure in leadership and attempted spin on the whole mess isn't illegal. It's just a tribute to Clinton's qualification as a candidate. Since Trump hasn't been a civil servant, his slate is clean. So, "we the people" selected an untried and inexperienced candidate over a tried and experienced one. People have their opinion of Clinton and picked the devil they don't know.

DNC should have anointed a more palatable candidate.

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In time, this too shall pass.