The Glade 4.0

Well safe schools but he does like to encourage some odd things with kids over the past 20 years. I am kinda suprised there was not a thread on this guy already.

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/07/fis ... more-56774

[quote] Fistgate XIV: Jennings Personally Pushed Books That Encouraged Children to Meet Adults at Gay Bars For Sex
by Jim Hoft
Happy New Year.

If you thought that we were through writing about Barack Obama’s dangerous Safe Schools Czar because it’s a new year you would be wrong. This story just gets freakier and weirder and the fact that the mainstream media completely ignores this dangerous man working in the Office of Safe and Drug-free Schools makes the story even more scandalous. You’d think the AP could peel away a few of its reporters from Going Rogue to investigate this radical czar. This avoidance by the democratic-media complex won’t keep us from reporting the truth. Our goal of protecting children is greater than our desire to protect a political party.

Kevin Jennings’ was the founder, and for many years, Executive Director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) until he left his post in 2008. GLSEN maintains a recommended reading list of books for children that the radical organization believes all kids should be reading. The books on the list promote all kinds of radical ideas from child rape, to first graders having sex to the joys of prostitution.



Recently it was discovered that these books were not only on GLSEN’s reading list but that Kevin Jennings personally promoted several of these books during his career. One of the books he promoted encouraged children to go to gay bars for sex with adults to see if they like it.
Mass Resistance Blog reported:


Jennings had recommended these books himself in his 1994 high school reader Becoming Visible (published by porn publisher Alyson Books). On p. 278 in his Questions/Activities section for Chapter 17, he wrote:

15. Other resources for reading are Bennett Singer’s Growing Up Gay, Ann Heron’s One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth, Aaron Frick’s Reflections of a Rock Lobster: A Story of Growing Up Gay, and Paul Monette’s Becoming a Man. Films include Robert King’s The Disco Years and Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, based on Jeanette Winterson’s autobiographical novel.

These questionable books (haven’t looked at the films yet…) have been described by Linda Harvey in 2002 (also here), NARTH (late 1990s), and more recently at Gateway Pundit/BigGovernment.com (Dec. 2009)…

NARTH reported on One Teenager in Ten:

Some of the Alyson publications, including One Teenager in Ten …encourage teens to, among other things, go to gay bars and have sex with adults to see if they like it.” Further, One Teenager in Ten “contains a lesbian teen’s explicit account of her affair with a teacher.”

This is proof that Jennings was promoting reading material that encouraged children to go to adult gay bars for sex for over 20 years.

There’s much more to come.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

I'm skeptical of that one, UncleFester. Sounds like some fundamentalist freaks pushing their tyrannical spin on anything that helps LGBT kids find their identity earlier rather than living with the preconceptions about what is appropriate that society teaches us. Do you have any idea what turmoil that our repressed sexuality causes later in life? Anything that helps LGBT kids come out earlier, and helps provide an environment where that is accepted, is a good thing.

But I haven't read the suggested books, nor do I know the exact details...maybe the books were inappropriate. Your source isn't exactly unbiased, however. I'll give GLSEN the benefit of the doubt.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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There was a bit of a scandal when it came out that while he was (principal?) in a school, he didn't report a case where a minor student (14?) revealed to him that he was having a gay sexual relationship with an adult, so don't let the source's bias cause you to jump to the defense of "I'm sure this guy *isn't* encouraging inappropriate and potentially harmful stuff for kids."

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Once again, another biased source (namely, Kaffis in this case) making blanket statements about situations I've never heard about before without the context or even source. As I said, I'll give GLSEN the benefit of the doubt, because there's nothing inherently wrong with teen sex or homosexuality, but the groups screaming about it have issues with it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe that's not warranted though. What happened in that case? Was he charged? Fired? Subject to disciplinary action of some kind? Surely if there was impropriety, investigation would have born that out, and we'll have something nice and official to look at. Then I won't need the benefit of the doubt or presumption of innocence, because there will be some nice proof of some kind.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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If this is in regards to the incident that Kaffis mentioned, nothing was done, because it wasn't until a few years later that he started recounting the story of his "assistance" with this youth at other functions.

He has since, if I recall, clearly admitted he handled the situation incorrectly, though that was only after it was brought to public attention (and the embarrassment it caused to the Obama camp to a small degree), despite using it as a positive story in the past.

Huh. And, looking this case up, the student in question was actually 16 (the age of consent) when the events happened(although there is audio of Jennings mistakenly saying the boy was 15). These are the words of the so-called victim, which he directly provided to "MediaMatters.org". (I'm not a fan of MediaMatters, but you cannot dispute the words of the "victim" himself.)


http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910020029

The more I look into this, the more it sounds to me like Jennings should be proud of that, rather than pulling the PC approach and apologizing for it.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Circular logic.


"If something wrong happened, he would have been punished; since he wasn't punished, nothing wrong happened."

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Not at all. I'm not the investigating authority. I can only go based on what has officially been provided. If I were a cop it would be circular, but I'm not. In this case, burden of proof is on the accuser. I see no proof, just accusations.

However, it does appear (see post above) that the information Kaffis and Ladas have was fairly blatantly inaccurate.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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nope nope nope. Clearly Jennings gave the gay to this poor, unsuspecting kid, and by telling him it was OK to be gay instead of sending him to a church to have the demons of faggotry and sodomy expunged from him, has surely condemned this poor, innocent child to an eternity of burning torment in a lake of fire.

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Holy shitsnacks!

1) Circular logical is circular, regardless of who is using it.

2) Violation of school policy is unethical.

3) You're discounting a source as biased while using a biased source.

4) The original reports were initially underage, it wasn't until later that the proper age was revealed.

5) None of this addresses his publications.

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O.J. Simpson did not kill Nicole Brown-Simpson.

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As I stated, Burden of Proof is on the accuser. If one cannot prove guilt, the man is innocent.



I'm not seeing the violation, kid was of age. But regardless, ethics are fluid. If you disagree with the policy, ignore it.



The source is not the website. The source is the "victim." If you want to call the victim biased, so be it. He's also the only really valid source.



Yes, proving the original reports incorrect, does it not?


Right, which, as I said, I'll give GLSEN the benefit of the doubt, in lieu of anything concrete from a source with its head on straight.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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What we mean to say is that you are clearly biased towards anyone with a gay agenda, which renders your arguments invalid.

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He did, however, commit multiple felonies, including criminal conspiracy, kidnapping, assault, robbery, and using a deadly weapon, for which he is currently serving a 33 year sentence.

The effectiveness of the legal system is another matter we're not discussing here.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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He may actually have killed Nicole, too, but the fact remains that he did not kill Nicole.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Oh, I'm becoming more biased toward him the more I look up the details, here. I had never heard of the man or any of these events when I expressed skepticism of UncleFester's intial source (which seemed to have the tone and credibility of Swiftboat Vets)...the books didn't appear worth looking up. But Kaffis's post made me look him up, and he seems to be a really good guy for the position he's in.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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This should come as no surprise to anyone. He is only acting according to his nature. IMO, it's just one more reason why parents who are concerned about this kind of morality in the public schools should withdraw their children and give them a private education.

The public schools are only going to get worse. I don't see it changing for the better.

Right, because allowing homosexuals, bisexuals, transgender individuals, and lesbians the freedom to live as they choose is going to send us all to hell. Give it a break, Beryllin. There are gay people. There have always been gay people. Their existence in no way harms you or your kids.

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Worse yet, the kid says Jennings made him PROUD to be gay! Pride in gayness! The horror! You do realize that that is why the churches put so many pedophiles in the pulpits: to ensure young men are ashamed of any gayness for the rest of their lives! Jennings is undoing their hard work!

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

"Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"

"Offenses must come, but woe to those through whom the offenses come! It would be better for that person to have a millstone tied around his neck and be cast into the depths of the sea, than for him to cause one of these little ones to stumble." (paraphrased)

There are homosexuals. That does not mean parents should give them a position of authority over their children.

Position of authority in what sense? In teaching of mathematics, science, history, English and literature etc? Or in terms of morality and values? Because I think your conflict over the latter would be with anyone, regardless of sexual orientation.

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The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Quite right. Such objections are not limited to those who espouse or promote homosexuality. I would equally object to an educator that taught that heterosexual adultery is acceptable behavior. (Just one of many possible examples.)

Yay! More out of context scripture used to defend the preposterous notion that Homosexuality is contagious. But, we do have proof that bigotry is.

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Yeah, God forbid that the Scriptures actually disagree with you. The "out of context" defense seems to be the real popular one recently.

*edit* Scripturally, the burden of educating children is delegated to fathers from OT times on, and allowing children to be taught things that are in violation of the Scriptural teaching is a big no-no. For example:

In Joshua 4, to memorialize the crossing of the Jordan, 12 stones were heaped as a memorial, ..."that this may be a sign among you when your children ask in time to come, saying, "What do these stones mean to you?" Then you shall answer them....". But in Judges 2, we find that Joshua died, was buried, and then these words: "When all that generation had been gathered to their fathers, another generation arose after them who did not know the Lord nor the work He had done for Israel. Then the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served the Baals; and they forsook the Lord God of their fathers...And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel. So He delivered them into the hands of plunderers who despoiled them; and He sold them into the hands of their enemies all around, so that they could no longer stand before their enemies. Wherever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for calamity, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn to them. And they were greatly distressed."

Why did a generation arise that did not know the Lord? The fathers did not properly teach the children.

He's not arguing that homosexuality is contagious, he's arguing that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to teach kids because they might teach the kids that homosexuality is acceptable or even something to take pride in.