Micheal wrote:
Sitting back, eating the popcorn, and thinking DE is actually winning this thread by reasoned argument and military and political knowledge.
Since I'm not engaging in this argument, and trying to read everything for content and sense, I'm surprised at finding this to be so.
By the way, if you are reading along, you realize DE is not a Trump or Trump administration fanboy, far from it. He is just explaining the why and the reality of what is going on, from his point of view true, but I think he has a lot of it right.
Thanks Michael, I appreciate it.
RangerDave wrote:
Yeah, and it's not even just that they can't maintain emotional distance, it's that they believe that it's wrong to expect them to try, because that expectation is an aspect of "respectability politics" and an oppressive tactic that the privileged use to silence the marginalized via "tone policing". It's a part of their baseline value system to prioritize the expression of feelings over rational arguments. It's like trying to have a rational argument about religion with a fundamentalist that considers the very act of questioning blasphemous.
It's becoming clear in recent years that belief based on faith has absolutely nothing to do with whether the supernatural is involved in that belief.
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That person will then proceed to explode on you, and it is impossible to effectively respond.
Calling their exploding behavior into question is the most effective response. Obviously it has no bearing on the matter at hand, but enraged explosions are really a form of argumentum ad bacculum.
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I'm in an argument on one right now where I really, really want to respond with, "You know, it's probably not very smart for LGBT people to make "greater good" arguments considering how small of a percentage of the total population you actually are," but I can't, because I know that will result in a drama explosion followed by me almost certainly getting banned.
Getting banned from a place that would ban you for that may not be such a terrible fate.