The Glade 4.0

There's really nothing ridiculous about that at all. It's only "ridiculous" because the idea of anyone having religious convictions makes you uncomfortable. Part of the reason people hold convictions like this is because of the propensity of other people to question what goes on behind closed doors. Religious people know that people like you will take any excuse to assume they're hypocrites not adhering to their own standards, so they take steps to avoid such accusations. Pence is just more publicly visible than most.

You're trying to create a situation where it is equally objectionable for people to adhere to their own convictions or nor, and to both invite question of their behavior and take steps to avoid such questions. "I don't want any chance of being perceived as a hypocrite" is not pathological; what is pathological is the need to criticize it from either direction. If you're going to act like that, then people you disagree with should basically ignore any concerns you have since your real goal is obviously to avoid having your concerns addressed at all costs.


Seeing as how you're criticizing him for having a moral stance because you feel his moral stance is critical of others, yes, in this particular case you're being a hypocrite.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I'd go for stabbing my coworkers in the face fencing, personally.

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When he's underwater does he get wet? Or does the water get him instead?

My objection with Pence isn't really about Christianity, it's the moralizer bullshit that arbitrarily assigns things to "right" and "wrong" categories and then declares that anything assigned to the "right" category must always be done, and that anything assigned to "wrong" category can never be done, and there are absolutely no exceptions, regardless of the consequences that may occur. In fact under this philosophy even considering the consequences of straying from the classifications is itself considered a moral lapse. The prohibition on being alone with women is just one chapter of Pence's political history which consists of one giant list of these things, where he allowed real harm to occur despite an effective solution being available simply because said solution offended some moral sensibility. Most prominent was how he allowed an AIDS epidemic to spread unchecked because it "sends the wrong message" for the government to make clean needles available to drug addicts.



How is this hypocritical? People are free to criticize my moral stances, I'm not applying special rules to myself in this regard.

#wouldbeabetterpresidentthanTrump

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Holy shitsnacks!

I love how I get criticized for not "advancing the discussion" and yet other people post pointless memes with absolutely zero shame.

And you wonder why I tell you not to have opinions.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

So... basically Pence holds his moral stances too much? Sorry. He still got elected, didn't he?



But your complaint was that he's criticizing other peoples, and not even explicitly.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

In keeping with the meme...

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In time, this too shall pass.

Yes. Moral absolutism of this type is complete bullshit. Needle exchanges have no downsides. They do not encourage drug use. They save the healthcare system money. He's wasting tons of tax money on these people's hospital bills as well as allowing the spread of disease just so he can appear morally superior.

Yeah, that's why legitimate medical establishments dispose of needles after a single use; because they just like wasting money rather than following a practice with "no downsides".

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Exactly. I follow a similar strategy with respect to black people. You see, I'm absolutely not racist, but I know how some people just love to play the faux-outrage card, so to avoid any wrongful accusations of racism or hypocrisy, I make it a point to never work or socialize with black people. It's the only way to be sure no one gets the wrong idea about my attitudes on race.

Yeah, people totally do this. Usually, the accusation goes "so-and-so claims he has black friends; only a racist would point that out!"

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

...what? A needle exchange is an operation run by the government where drug addicts can turn in dirty needles and get clean ones. They throw the dirty ones away. The idea is to prevent the spread of bloodborne diseases, like HIV. Pence refused to allow the operation of needle exchanges in Indiana despite an HIV epidemic. He literally let people die and wasted taxpayer money (Medicaid does have to pay for these people's resulting medical problems, after all) because the idea of giving needles to addicts offended his moral sensibilities.

Yeah, no idea where that argument was going.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

Trump is doing an excellent job


at destroying the false idolatry of the office of President and thus attacking the heart of the fiction that is the state.

The more he destroys reverence for the office the better it is for Americans. The more the scales fall from their eyes so they can see and judge clearly if anyone or any institution should violate their rights for the sweet lies of comfort and security.

In the last two Presidential cycles the right has shaken and dropped it's fruit, now the left is shaken and dropping theirs. Those more loosely attached to the tree drop first but eventually all will realize the tree is dying and leave or die with it.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

I thought he was talking about addicts exchanging needles between each other.


Also, Pence did in fact allow a needle exchange when the "epidemic" his a grand total of...

79 cases.

So, let's not pretend Pence was such a slave to some abstract moral principle that he refused to listen to reason. When the CDC told him it was really necessary, he went ahead with it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I think you could have squeezed in a couple more metaphors.

Ehhhh.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville