The Glade 4.0

Motor skills are diminished, but attitude isn't affected by marijuana the same way it is with alcohol. For example, I've never heard of anyone going into a marijuana-induced rage. Except, of course, someone rages on some snack foods.

What, you've never seen someone experience Reefer Madness?

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Ahhh California protecting you from Transfats but opening up the Ganja.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

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Fester, Transfats wouldn't come up with the vig, screw 'em.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

These rages are not to underestimated In college, our kitchen looked like hell after the some of the guys got back from sitting in the parking lot. Me? I prefer just riding a bike down to the nearby DQ.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

To be fair, trans fats are probably far worse for you.

Probably true.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Right up to the point that some stoned guy runs a stop sign and hits you broadside at 45 mph.

You know, I'm pretty sure I'd prefer the slight risk of that to the millions of dollars in medical bills I'm subsidizing.

We should probably get rid of cars.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

A stoner doing 45 MPH would feel like he was doing 450 MPH. The more likely scenario is the stoned guy runs into the stop sign itself at 5 MPH because he was going too fast and lost control while he was looking under his seat for his Doritos.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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A while back one of my bosses was late to work. He came up on a car doing 15 mph on a clear freeway, pulled alongside and realized the driver was all but passed out at the wheel. He got behind the car,turned on his emergency blinkers and honked a few times. The driver didn't respond. He got on his cell phone called 911, and the Highway patrol was there about three minutes later. The CHP Officer hit the lights and siren and the driver still didn't respond. The CHP Officer then pulled alongside the car and used his PA system to tell the driver to pull over. My boss followed the car off the road and stopped to give the Officer his card if anything was needed. The Officer asked the guy in the car to step outside. According to my old boss, the door opened, the fog of purple smoke rolls out and the stoner asked the officer if he was going too fast.

My boss was then told he could leave.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

And the cost of the drug war.

And the cost of the incarceration of non-violent offenders.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Some people don't realize it, man, but you're a funny guy. You know that?

So I am told. It doesn't show well in print.

Ganja's bad for the lungs, but that's about it. DWI is DWI, and legalizing pot could go a long way to helping out our economic woes.

Micheal's story made me lol.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

The thing is it's not the THC that's bad for your lungs, it's the burning cellulose.

So it's okay to legalize your vice, but ours has to be banned?

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

No, intoxication has a very specific definition. In most states, it is 0.08 BAC. Measuring THC in the blood is much more difficult. So you might argue, "Well, don't drive at all after using THC containing products." OK, that's fair, but then we run into DE's point about the reasonability and ability for the average person to know when enough time has passed. THC can linger in the body for a while, but it's impossible for an individual to ascertain when it becomes "legal" to drive, and is even more difficult than with alcohol.

And pot doesn't have to be smoked, either. There are numerous ways to ingest it - smoking just has the quickest and most fleeting results.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Right. Hot stuff in lungs bad.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Actually, intoxication is not defined in most states as 0.08 BAC. That is simply defined as "Excess BAC". In Ohio, that is actually a separate charge from OVI (DWI/DUI) although you can only be convicted of one or the other for the same offense. DWI or its equivalent in any state generally means driving while impaired by some substance, alcohol or otherwise, and can even be charged below 0.08 BAC. However, in order to convict for below 0.08 BAC you're now relying solely on observations and testimony (generally backed up by video) to show impairment, and you don't ahve the fall-back position of "regardless of how impaired the person appeared they were over the limit."

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Right, well I guess my point is, there is not any quantifiable way to say a person is intoxicated by THC (poor choice of words since THC isn't an toxic agent). I would offer that field sobriety tests for alcohol are not going to work well for THC substances.

I would hate to believe that the best way to convict someone of operating a car under the influence of THC is circumstantial.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

The field sobriety tests for alcohol might not work all that well, but it shouldn't be too hard to develop some that work for THC since it does, in fact, impair motor skills.

Even when you can't test someone for BAC for some reason (asthma, for example) you take allt he circumstances together. There's nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence when there's enough of it. For example, the officer will note in his report things like bloodshot eyes or dialated pupils, the oder of an alcoholic beverage, what the suspect's speech was like, how his balance and motor control appear before the sobriety tests begin, and other things. The same principles would apply to marijuana.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

/cop holds up bag of cheetos

What does the alleged stoner do?

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show