The Glade 4.0

Conservatives on the court are far more notable for not wanting to invent new legal doctrines, or overturn past decisions simply because they disagree with them than liberals are (and even the actual liberal justices are more respectful of precedent in less-high-profile cases than people imagine them to be). The court voted 9-0 against Massachusetts when it attempted to use the same reasoning in a Taser ban that was used in Heller, and the liberal justices essentially said "this was decided; we are not your pet justices and the operation of the court is more important than your agenda". If liberals will do that, conservatives will more so - that's pretty much the definition of conservative.

Gay marriage is very, very unlikely to be walked back, in a large part because doing so would create a gigantic mess of new cases based on the status of existing marriages, and another thing the court is averse to doing is inventing work for itself.

These things are wildly unlikely. They fall into the category of "theoretically possible", but nothing more. This fear that same-sex marriage, or any other change liberals like is forever under threat of immediate reversal is based entirely on caricature. I know it's been a popular habit to rant about religion and the horrible evangelicals just around the corner on the Glade, but the resentments of people here that they had to get out of bed on Sunday morning when they were 14 aren't the basis for the fears that they've been imagined to be.

To be fair, in Kennedy's particular case he was notorious for an expansive view of court power and new legal doctrines that weren't previously imagined, but that doesn't make other conservatives less conservative. The problem with your view is that conservative justices put the operation of courts, laws, and constitutions ahead of the outcomes of particular cases rather than the other way around. You seem to think its the reverse, but the reason is that the cases brought to the courts by liberals - the high profile ones, especially - tend to involve someone wishing to use the courts as an end run around the electoral and legislative process.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Let's not get carried away. Maxine Waters may be there to say dumb ****, but that's because she'd dumb enough to say it herself. She represents her constituents because she is the face of the garbage that's been fed to black people by their own supposed "leaders" for decades, and the plan that if you're just loud, obnoxious, use a condescending tone of voice and make enough allusions to the civil rights era and the Bible, anyone who argues is racist.

These are the people that are being foisted upon the average black voter as somehow representing them, (the concern over "gentrification" is telling; its another way of saying "keep the blacks in one place so we can keep the seat safe and ***** they've been gerrymandered"), but it's not being done under the table. It's being done openly. You don't need any secret intel/counter-intel operation when CNN and the New York Times will do it for you out of their own pocket.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Maxine Waters is a very useful tool who has been made very rich by powerful people who are seeking bloodshed in our streets to protect them from what's coming.

Make no mistake. She is not acting independently.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

A Clinton campaign official has been arrested on child rape charges.

It's starting.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Come on dude. So Pizzagate is true too? We really don't need to resort to accusing the other side of being so cartoonishly evil they're masterminding a massive secret child rape cabal.

It's not my fault that bad actors who traffick and rape children exist.

Human trafficking is a multiple billion dollar business by conservative official government estimates who have no real way of tracking black markets. It's empires are run, like any other empire, by the wealthy and powerful and connected. These black market institutions have lobbyists like every other major industry who pay politicians to represent their interests.

Often times (I would posit most) the individuals being solicited by the lobbyists representing these sorts of interests have a certain enthusiasm for the product.

The reach of this is global in nature.

This Administration has made cracking down on these sorts of rings a priority. Look to an I unpublicized executive order signed in December, and the purge and reforms in both the DPRK and KSA, two of the largest hubs of human trafficking in the world due to their lack of human rights.

Yes, pizza gate is real.

Edit: my phone oddly merger another post from a completely different message board which I have edited out.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

You and those you are drawn to spent the last 10 or more years setting up the dynamics of the last presidency, you/yours picked the actors on the stage and passed out the scripts hot off the press at every opportunity.

What you're experiencing now is the pushback to your Utopia. Note for next time - follow the laws for how changes should be made and you won't have them undone so easily.

I think you/yours went too far, you/yours tied too hard to take a democratic trifecta in the US and change the world into you/your Utopia... where there are no borders, all can come and go, contributing, and no gaps between any that cause to bend a knee...where all sing kumbaya and Fox News has lost it's broadcasters license

You/your problem was, you didn't ask the other half (really, many more than half) of civilization what they thought should happen. Welcome to their rebuttal of you/your grand new world. Brexit from across the pond.

Personally, my problem is that nobody knows what shitstorm your open borders and other socialist liberal experiments with the world and the folks on it will bring and don't want any part of it because there is absolutely no evidence, empirical or otherwise, that support your assertions about your proposed social changes.

You/yours just *feel* it's the right thing to do, and dehumanize folks that don't drink your kool-aid.

Welcome to reality. From what I've heard today, Trump's influence will actively survive in law and policy for at least another 100 years.

That's your reward for ignoring the deplorables that surround you.

Yay!

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In time, this too shall pass.

That movie was so awesome. Really wish that older SNL crowd were still doing shows/movies. The current crop of comedians do nothing more than drop F-bombs and make Trump jokes.

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The Dude abides.

The idea that the DNC might have taken money from people involved with child trafficking is completely different than the Pizzagate **** which alleges that basically the entire DNC leadership is regularly taking jaunts over to secret islands in order to rape kids themselves.

It's both unfortunately. Don't worry, it's not limited to DNC leadership. It's lots of powerful people across both sides of the political divide.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

No, I just don't buy it. I don't think you'd find anything that ridiculously self centered and blatantly evil in the last 300 years of Western civilization. I mean, worse things happened, but even the Nazis thought they were acting for the greater good of the German people. The idea that our entire top leadership is secretly involved in the maintenance of a multibillion child rape cabal that exists entirely to satisfy the perverse sexual lusts of a significant number of their members is the kind of thing paranoid schizophrenics come up with.

EDIT: Also, I'm not worried about Pizzagate being real because it would reveal some lie about my political and/or ethical motivations. I'm worried about Pizzagate being real because if it is real and exists on as widespread a scale as claimed, my status as a German immigrant with pro-LGBT and anti-Christian views have a high probability of getting me strung up by the resulting populist uprising as some kind of degeneracy enabler.

I'm not going to try to convince you. I'm just preparing you for what's coming. The events themselves will convince you.

As for being worried about your own safety, once it's revealed, simply be on the side of good, and you won't have anything to worry about.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Here's the indictment for anyone who isn't squeamish.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press ... 6/download

It's far worse than the coverage it's getting. He thought it was normal that parents would willingly offer up their children to strangers for money. Children 0+. This is a learned behavior.

We're talking about a Nobel Prize nominee who was a regular on high level projects at the UN and major political campaigns.

Getting almost no coverage. Much like the some 10,000 arrests in 2017 related to pedophilia and child trafficking. (In prior years the numbers were a 10th and 20th of those, yet there had been no coverage.). Ask yourself why.

This is just beginning. The darkness is real.

Prepare your mind for what is coming.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Oh, I'm not. The thing is, the people making her powerful are open, known actors, not hidden "very powerful people". She's well-known to be considered a fool inside the DNC and among her congressional peers, and she is there in a safe Democrat, black-majority district to keep her constituents fearful of voting for anyone but her and act as bait for Republicans to say mean things to her that can be portrayed as "Racist" because she is a black female. The one that got into a tiff last year with John Kelly and wears the absurdly-colored cheap cowboy hats is there for pretty much the same reason.

What I am pointing out is a conservation of conditionals, to coin a phrase. Maxine Waters can definitely be explained as a tool of powerful people; its just that those people don't need to be hidden or actively seeking violence through covert means for her to be that. It doesn't preclude it, but I am still not convinced on this idea of a shadowy cabal (and I don't intend that term to be hyperbole, just can't think of a better one at the moment) because I don't think that level of precise control could really be practically achieved, or that even if it could that there would be any one such group.

Or, to put it another way, both sides see some rich, powerful individuals on the other side as shadowy actors, such as Soros or the Kochs. It's very hard to imagine people better-positioned than they to act, and yet they're already known.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Not necessarily child rape, but billions of dollars in trafficked children is exactly what the "abolish ICE, release families into the population" crowd is advocating for, and the only way not to know it is to pretend children appear at the border by magic. Almost every single female over the age of 9 who comes across the vborder is on birth control because rape is a part of the travel process - either violent, or as a "supplementary payment" to whoever the cartel actually hires to get the aliens from point A to point B. The 30 billion in remittances to Central America each yer is almost all money in the pockets of criminal organizations; the large, nasty, well-organized kind.

The wailing about "family separation" at the border at best marks an intentional ignorance to the way permitting massive family migration perpetuates the conditions that cause it, so as to feel as if something moral has been accomplished or to have an excuse to bother Republicans while they are having lunch. At worst it reveals a willingness to actively encourage those conditions simply to import potential future Democrats and create a crisis and then vote against solving it.


Think about the parents that are sending their children north, or dragging them north through a hellish journey. This "Search for a better life" is, itself, child abuse. Most of these supposedly put-upon people could be using their $8,000 to make life in Honduras better, but they hire the same criminals they claim to be fleeing to drag themselves and their small children through Mexico at extreme risk. The bemoaning of "family separation" completely ignores the fact that illegally crossing the border with a child inherntly marks a parent as unfit, if, indeed the person is actually the parent (over 25% are imposters escorting someone else's child to claim family status. What happens to that child after they get a release? Does that child in fact make it to their uncle's home in North Carolina or Colorado or does the adult just ditch them?)

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

That document is absolutely disgusting. The fact you hear nothing about it is also disgusting.

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"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me." - Alice R. Longworth

"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash Williams

Okay so this 22 year old (who would have been 20 during the last election) is somehow a major player in the Clinton campaign? I mean, I get that he’s likely a pedophile, but what’s the conspiracy connection you think you see? A “campaign official” sounds like he went door to door handing out fliers at best. Certainly he had nothing to do with the leadership. The fact that at 22 he’s been to 3 colleges suggests lack of focus, hardly the future-democratic king these sites are making him out to be.

Guilty of being a sexual predator: very likely
Connection with some Democratic Cabal: non-exisistant

I am highly skeptical that pedophilia is, as a general phenomenon, widespread enough that some pizzagate like scenario would ever be plausible. If pedophilia were statistically common, humanity would not have developed the mores against it that we possess.

That said, no secretive cabal is necessary for the encouragement of human trafficking in order to create a crisis to then blame on one's opponents is precisely what's going on at our southern border. I realize having more "brown people", as the left like to call them to try to frighten into voting Democrat is an attractive political situation, but the fact is that the situation that makes migration necessary will persist as long as mass migration is possible.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

It's not "likely", he's admitted to everything.

And he attended three colleges because it was driven by his success metrics. At 22 he's been nominated for a Nobel Prize, served with the UN, and worked with several high level campaigns.

He had that access because he was groomed to have that access by the same people who groomed him for his predilections. Everything he's doing is normalized to him. It's all learned behavior. He was essentially bred to be exactly who he is.

Also bear in mind that this began from evidence collected from the Weiner laptop.

Prepare yourselves.

It's beginning, and it will be very hard to wrap your minds around.

The darkness is real.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Soros is one of the four families involved. The House of Saud was another, but that was put to rest in December. There are two others.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

define "Democratic trifecta" I honestly have no idea what you're referring to here.
Okay. Lets be SPECIFIC. What 'other socialist liberal experiments ' do you have a problem with?
What proposed social changes do you have an issue with?
For that matter what assertions have I made? (I'm sure I've made some, i'm just trying to figure out what you're referring to)
I don't recall EVER advocating for open borders (nor do I think anyone else on the Glade has,) so characterizing them as "my open borders" is a non-starter.
Please expound on what specifically you have an issue with.

Democratic trifecta - the entirety of the legislative, executive and judicial branches of the democratic government.

You had a couple of years where you and yours owned most of government, just needed a liberal majority on the SC but you and yours went to far too fast and invited the backlash you’re party is now experiencing.

As far as your individual assertions, they always fall directly from the mouth of the party. You’re a strict party follower. I’m convinced you’d vote for Trump if he ran as a liberal. If I want to know what you’re thinking, I read dailyKOS... and that’s why i made a point of mentioning “you and yours” as often as I did. You have no original opinions, you just follow obediently where your party leads, believe what you’re told when you’re told. I’ve always figured that you’ve got some mentor or small group you try to impress that are liberal stalwarts, and you’ve taken to emulating them... a twisted hero worship kinda thing.

Kinda funny, that's the one thing that can't be said about those that voted for trump. They certainly weren't doing what the DNC told them to do, or the GOP, or the media. For whatever reason, they voted how they felt they should and not how they were told to. Just another reason for folks to hate them, I guess.

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In time, this too shall pass.

I’ve never even read the dailykos. But casting that aside,
You didn’t answer the questions. In fact you evaded it and instead launched into a rant about me parroting someone else’s opinion.

What “social experiments” do you have an issue with?

dailyKOS is the same as any other idiotic liberal media wannabe, like huffington post, time, etc.

Besides, what do you care about my issues, other than for me to formally express them so you can break out in your liberal pee-pee dance about them? I already know what the liberal response to the social issues of the day are, and you're an extremely party line kinda guy, so you won't be breaking any new ground in your opinions.

I'll state my opinions, you'll call them racist, homophobic and anti-science. Wash, rinse, repeat. I’ll tell you what - I’ll share them with you as soon as you explain how supporting abortion and claiming you have any care at all for any child can exist within the same personal philosophy without being a raging hypocrite. You did say you were going to explain that at some point... I’m still waiting.

You'll have a lot of time to get your schtick down, the USSC is going to give you and yours plenty of fodder to rail against when you can't legislate from the bench and can't win an election 'cause you and yours back social extremists.

Just take note of what I suggested earlier - don't change the future with a pen, that doesn't work out well. You need to change the rules by the rules, then you truly can make it stick.

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In time, this too shall pass.