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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:59 pm 
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Are you referring here to the latest insanity where they claim McCain never actually had cancer, and the whole thing was a lie to cover the fact that he was actually secreted off to Gitmo, tried for treason in a secret military tribunal, and executed by firing squad?


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Are we all following along yet?


Look, I'm sorry, but QAnon is extremely **** up and not particularly sane. This **** is starting to have real world consequences when crazy people read this **** and then go to their local coffee shop convinced there's secret child rape victim smuggling tunnels set up between it and the Democrats in city hall. (this actually happened) Are you referring here to the latest insanity where they claim McCain never actually had cancer, and the whole thing was a lie to cover the fact that he was actually secreted off to Gitmo, tried for treason in a secret military tribunal, and executed by firing squad? Why do you think **** like this would be acceptable even if it was true? You're cheering on the military kidnapping sitting members of Congress and murdering them.


What in the blue Hell are you talking about?

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Are we all following along yet?


Look, I'm sorry, but QAnon is extremely **** up and not particularly sane. This **** is starting to have real world consequences when crazy people read this **** and then go to their local coffee shop convinced there's secret child rape victim smuggling tunnels set up between it and the Democrats in city hall. (this actually happened) Are you referring here to the latest insanity where they claim McCain never actually had cancer, and the whole thing was a lie to cover the fact that he was actually secreted off to Gitmo, tried for treason in a secret military tribunal, and executed by firing squad? Why do you think **** like this would be acceptable even if it was true? You're cheering on the military kidnapping sitting members of Congress and murdering them.


What in the blue Hell are you talking about?


.....do you seriously not know what QAnon is? It's your conspiracy theory literally verbatim. I assumed that's what it was from the start but didn't want to immediately proceed to calling it out. The McCain thing was just the latest BS the Q guy threw up on 4chan.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/QAnon
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The term "The Storm" was apparently inspired by a non sequitur mumbled by Trump to the press during a routine photo-op with senior military leaders in October 2017.[5]

“”TRUMP: “You guys know what this represents? ... Maybe it’s the calm before the storm.”

REPORTER: "What storm, Mr. President?"

TRUMP: "You'll find out."

—Trump, to puzzled reporters.[6]

Because he was surrounded by high-ranking military officers at the time, believers have interpreted his bizarre remarks to mean he was recruited by military intelligence to lead a "quiet coup" to restore "integrity" to the US government; hence, he will impose martial law and unleash a "storm" of retribution against satanic Clintonites, Democratic evil-doers, Deep State dirtbags, and RINO cucks. And this coup will succeed, according to one believer, since "deep state corruption has a heavy Jewish influence" and "the military has a very low rate of Jewish people"


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:39 am 
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Are we all following along yet?


Look, I'm sorry, but QAnon is extremely **** up and not particularly sane. This **** is starting to have real world consequences when crazy people read this **** and then go to their local coffee shop convinced there's secret child rape victim smuggling tunnels set up between it and the Democrats in city hall. (this actually happened) Are you referring here to the latest insanity where they claim McCain never actually had cancer, and the whole thing was a lie to cover the fact that he was actually secreted off to Gitmo, tried for treason in a secret military tribunal, and executed by firing squad? Why do you think **** like this would be acceptable even if it was true? You're cheering on the military kidnapping sitting members of Congress and murdering them.


What in the blue Hell are you talking about?


.....do you seriously not know what QAnon is? It's your conspiracy theory literally verbatim. I assumed that's what it was from the start but didn't want to immediately proceed to calling it out. The McCain thing was just the latest BS the Q guy threw up on 4chan.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/QAnon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

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The term "The Storm" was apparently inspired by a non sequitur mumbled by Trump to the press during a routine photo-op with senior military leaders in October 2017.[5]

“”TRUMP: “You guys know what this represents? ... Maybe it’s the calm before the storm.”

REPORTER: "What storm, Mr. President?"

TRUMP: "You'll find out."

—Trump, to puzzled reporters.[6]

Because he was surrounded by high-ranking military officers at the time, believers have interpreted his bizarre remarks to mean he was recruited by military intelligence to lead a "quiet coup" to restore "integrity" to the US government; hence, he will impose martial law and unleash a "storm" of retribution against satanic Clintonites, Democratic evil-doers, Deep State dirtbags, and RINO cucks. And this coup will succeed, according to one believer, since "deep state corruption has a heavy Jewish influence" and "the military has a very low rate of Jewish people"


I'm familiar with Qanon, though I don't follow it.

My familiarity extends only in so far as I find it interesting that much of what is happening in regards to the Russia investigation has been accurately laid out by Qanon researchers.

What I am talking about is the emergence that China was reading Hillary Clinton's emails in real time while she served as SoS, and the Bruce Ohr stuff now coming to light in the public sphere, which is something I've been talking about for months.

The Obama White House, DNC, and Clinton Campaign actually did all of the things they have accused President Trump of, and the chickens are beginning to come home to roost.

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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-roo ... -warrants/

How about now? Do we see it yet?

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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018 ... ialnetwork

Or maybe now?

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What are we supposed to be seeing here? Obama once received an e-mail from Clinton's private e-mail address, therefore he must have known about her e-mail server? Seems pretty weak to me.


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I still want to know what the actual f**k Xeq is talking about.

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Here's the Wikipedia entry: QAnon

In a nutshell, it's a conspiracy theory that started on 4chan and spread to Reddit, YouTube, etc. It's key elements seem to be that (i) various political, economic, and cultural elites (mostly but not exclusively lefties) around the world have been conspiring to control America and the world for decades, (ii) Obama, the Clintons, George Soros, etc. are all key players in that conspiracy, (iii) a major activity of these conspirators is, for some reason, maintaining a global pedophile sex-trafficking ring in which thousands of elites are involved, (iv) a military coup was on the verge of taking place to finally put an end to it all and "restore the Republic", (v) but fortunately, Donald Trump was apparently recruited instead (by top military, intelligence, law enforcement or whoever - it varies) as a rich and powerful outsider who could bring this house of horrors crashing down without the need for a coup, (vi) Trump and Mueller are thus secretly working together, with Mueller actually investigating the elite **** instead of Trump, and all the antagonism and apparent disarray in the Trump Administration is just a show to throw people off until it's too late, (vii) numerous elites have already been placed under house arrest, or otherwise secretly indicted, and (viii) everything thus far has just been the calm before the storm, and when Trump and Mueller are finally ready, they'll act decisively to sweep up all the pedophile elites and their allies in one fell swoop via mass arrests of thousands, resulting in predictable riots and attempted coups that will ultimately be put down by Trump and his allies / sponsors among the military.

Beyond all that, there are various even crazier offshoots - e.g., that JFK Jr. is secretly alive and he's the "Q" who's been leaking all the supposed intel that led to the QAnon theory in the first place, that Clinton and McCain were both already secretly indicted and wearing tracking devices around their ankles to keep tabs on them and McCain's death was faked either so he could escape or as a cover for his imprisonment in Gitmo, that Kim Jong Un is actually a CIA plant either working for Trump to help distract people from the "real" Mueller investigation or or working against Trump as a member of the Deep State to start a war and help set Trump up for a coup attempt, etc., etc.

I hadn't heard of QAnon until recently, either, but once I started reading up on it, it was amazing how closely the core elements of it mapped to what Rynar's been saying. Whether or not Rynar considers himself an actual follower of the QAnon theory, his views definitely seem aligned with a lot of it.


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Conspiracies don't exit.

Like minded people in power form cabals to cement their power and get others involved.

This is normal behavior.

Conspiracies tend to conjure ideas of secrecy but most of these actions are out in front, well documented, and thus ignored as problematic.

There are hundreds of groups that do this stuff.

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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/15/ig-report-confirms-obama-lied-about-hillarys-email/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

Or maybe now?


Umm, the Washington Times is not a credible source.

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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-justice-department-discloses-no-fisa-court-hearings-held-on-carter-page-warrants/

How about now? Do we see it yet?


I don't know what you're getting at. Hearings are not required and FISA judges don't have to hold them. See https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/c ... UiSj_gxTg/ for a decent explanation.

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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-justice-department-discloses-no-fisa-court-hearings-held-on-carter-page-warrants/

How about now? Do we see it yet?


I don't know what you're getting at. Hearings are not required and FISA judges don't have to hold them. See https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/c ... UiSj_gxTg/ for a decent explanation.


The only other way to have obtained the FISA warrant against Carter Page was for the Obama administration to have authorized it themselves.

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The only other way to have obtained the FISA warrant against Carter Page was for the Obama administration to have authorized it themselves.


For the sake of argument, let's say they did. So what?

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Rynar wrote:
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-justice-department-discloses-no-fisa-court-hearings-held-on-carter-page-warrants/

How about now? Do we see it yet?


I don't know what you're getting at. Hearings are not required and FISA judges don't have to hold them. See https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/c ... UiSj_gxTg/ for a decent explanation.


The only other way to have obtained the FISA warrant against Carter Page was for the Obama administration to have authorized it themselves.


How so? The warrant application goes the FISA court and they approve it or not. No hearing is necessary for this process unless the judge(s) want one. In this case, they did not. This is fairly typical.

The redacted warrant applications were released - we know which judges approved which. How is this the administration authorizing it themselves?

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So are we still waiting to see what's going on?

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So are we still waiting to see what's going on?

No, the media's ADD kicked in and we're now chastising SCOTUS nominees for indiscretions supposedly committed when they were minors.

I bet that bastard didn't color inside the lines, either. Mrs FirstGradeTeacher has sent a letter to her senator, film at 11:00

This comment isn't an indictment of the accuser, both accuser and accused could all be telling the truth as they know it. I sure don't ever remember blacking out from drinking when I was in the army, and I can only speculate on whether it's factual, since I don't freaking remember. I'm not going to admit to doing anything I don't remember doing and expect others to do the same. Then too, the accuser could be telling the truth. So many years and so few facts to hang a hat on makes it a tough call from this armchair quarterback.

Too bad the party of Bill Clinton screwed another woman, but don't give the dems what they want when they're responsible for the fact that A) this has all the earmarks of a last minute Hail Mary, including B) manipulating the situation specifically so it was introduced at the last minute, and C) paying court to those piling on. It's no longer about "me too", it's about "me too" being weaponized and the political infection of the story of victims of sexual violence

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So are we still waiting to see what's going on?


Funny you should ask.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/40981 ... ier-before

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If Obama came out tomorrow and said "I directed the FBI to investigate the Trump Campaign working with Russia", so what? What am I supposed to be "seeing"?

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If Obama came out tomorrow and said "I directed the FBI to investigate the Trump Campaign working with Russia", so what? What am I supposed to be "seeing"?


The President doesn't get to work to manufacture false evidence in order to justify spying on political opponents. He certainly doesn't get to manufacture said evidence to justify prior spying operations initiated for political purposes after the fact in order to hide his malfeasance.

The arrests are going to start coming soon.

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You're about to see the beginnings of the indictments.

They aren't going to be who you thought they were. You're going to begin to have a very different understanding of what Mike Flynn meant when he communicated through his lawyer that he had a story to tell.

People have already started hanging for their crimes. Some around the fringes are being scandaled out (being doled out in the private sector as well) or by not seeking re-election.


"Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:56 pm "

So... how's that goin? Any day now right?

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You're about to see the beginnings of the indictments.

They aren't going to be who you thought they were. You're going to begin to have a very different understanding of what Mike Flynn meant when he communicated through his lawyer that he had a story to tell.

People have already started hanging for their crimes. Some around the fringes are being scandaled out (being doled out in the private sector as well) or by not seeking re-election.


"Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:56 pm "

So... how's that goin? Any day now right?


I don't know that I'd phrase it as "any day now", because first come the unredacted declassifications, then the next OIG report; and it all seems to be being timed for maximum political impact, but yes, very soon.

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You're about to see the beginnings of the indictments.

They aren't going to be who you thought they were. You're going to begin to have a very different understanding of what Mike Flynn meant when he communicated through his lawyer that he had a story to tell.

People have already started hanging for their crimes. Some around the fringes are being scandaled out (being doled out in the private sector as well) or by not seeking re-election.


"Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:56 pm "

So... how's that goin? Any day now right?


I don't know that I'd phrase it as "any day now", because first come the unredacted declassifications, then the next OIG report; and it all seems to be being timed for maximum political impact, but yes, very soon.


Maximum political impact is three weeks from now. After that, it won't matter for two years.


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So it is election day... has any of this come to pass or are we waiting til next year?

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