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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:25 am 
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Crisis Pregnancy Centers are repugnant.
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/ar ... al/2018-03\
https://youtu.be/4NNpkv3Us1I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_pr ... nformation

If your tactics are to lie, manipulate, mislead, and emotionally blackmail, you're not just WRONG you're actively evil.


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TheRiov wrote:
Crisis Pregnancy Centers are repugnant.
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/ar ... al/2018-03\
https://youtu.be/4NNpkv3Us1I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_pr ... nformation

If your tactics are to lie, manipulate, mislead, and emotionally blackmail, you're not just WRONG you're actively evil.

I read your first article. About every claim it makes against the ethics of CPC ignore the baby involved or are criticisms that can also be leveled at how Planned Parenthood conducts their practice. Considering these places are often staffed by volunteers, I'm not going to impute ill intent to how they go about their duties. I'm sure there are bad actors, which can be said for just about every organization.

As an organization, I don't see that they lie otherwise they'd be taken to court. I will concede more disclosure about who they are and what they cannot/will not do is better for the women seeking their help.

As an organization, I don't see that they manipulate. There is no hard-sell and any woman is capable of getting a second opinion elsewhere.

As an organization, they may unintentionally mislead with respect to what your article mentioned about STI's and contraception. This has more to do with improper training of their volunteer staff who are inserting opinion rather than information.

As an organization, I don't see that they emotionally blackmail. How would they do that? They hold no collateral to hold over the woman's head. They can make their case that the baby inside the woman is actual life and that killing it is ACTIVELY EVIL. The woman is entirely at liberty to disregard the opinion of the complete stranger telling her this and go to another clinic.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:54 am 
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TheRiov wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out when you think I 'lost' the scientific argument.


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A human life is more than a collection of their cells. It isnt the fact that I have a heartbeat + Human DNA.

This is where you lost. On your referenced first effing post on the thread.

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Hopwin wrote:
TheRiov wrote:
A human life is more than a collection of their cells. It isnt the fact that I have a heartbeat + Human DNA.


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I'm still trying to figure out when you think I 'lost' the scientific argument.


This is where you lost. On your referenced first effing post on the thread.


Yeah you literally lost when you went anti-sciene by bare assertion.

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