The Glade 4.0

This is based on DE's suggestion to keep a list of all the Fail we encounter:
Microknight
Caribdis
Vestalen

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Darksiege
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Holy shitsnacks!

Microknight was from a group I was tanking (H-HoS) and committed two sins: DPS with +defense and 71 points in a single tree.

Those combined yielded crap DPS with ~700 DPS. Not going to do the Tribunal with that level of suckery. We kicked and got replacement for that boss and finished the instance.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Vestalen

66/0/2 - he's gotten much better gearwise, lost all the +attack he had when I ran into him, but even after having run over a dozen Heroics, no one has pointed out the unspent points.

He also has 71 points in his offspec. Is there a single spec among the 30 which deserves all 71? I'd say no, and I dare someone to prove me wrong.

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I wish I could remember the name of the Assassination rogue who was using swords.

I really had to wonder about that.. did he think you were only allowed to use one tree at a time or something?

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any chance for a sticky? teeheehee

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Darksiege
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Always a chance DS, but what is the point. This thread could stay near the top of the list for a year.

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Ominouslight

529 defense

0/66/5

Not 1 not 2 but 3 +12 parry rating.

+5 defense on wrist

Carnivorous Band on finger with open gem slot

No leg enchant

No glove enchant

No Belt Buckle

Meta is stun duration reduction

And he pulled HoL way too hard for his gear level - with a paladin healer, too, and that's hard on a paladin healer.

He forgot about the boom from the slag so he killed all but himself (Argent Defender) and me. First of many near wipes.

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Stannlley-Warsong

This flaming retard shows up in a Heroic Trial of the Champion having qued in as the healer. As soon as the jousting portion of the battle is over, he's in bear form with nary a heal to be seen. Tank points out he's the healer. He's like "No, I'm DPS or Tank".

Apparently either has major short-term memory problems or is too stupid to know what the choices mean for what you can que as.

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I am sad. I grouped with the most fail-inest healer I have seen in a long damn time last night, and forgot to get the name. Sigh.

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Ripz; The Venture Co

He was tanking heroic Trial of the Champion yesterday.

Fully buffed the douche had only 22k health; and kept losing aggro. He kept yelling at the group because we would not silence the healer champion.

1st off; I announced when I would use mind freeze or strangulate... neither one of them did dick, i did not think they would, but he insisted so I tried.

The last thing he said before disbanding.... "Every one of you **** can stop his casting, but you let him get wave of healing off every time."

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Darksiege
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The Shaman? He's fully interruptable.

However, he doesn't heal *that* much. Should be pretty easy to just burn his *** down.

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Holy shitsnacks!

He did not get interrupted once. But look at the guys gear... he is trying to tank a heroic instance with iLevel 158 gear.

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Darksiege
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Protadins have two interrupts.

Hammer of Justice and Avenger's Shield.

Hammer of Justice (Cooldown varies by talents) is an interrupt/stun and Avenger's Shield (30 sec cooldown) stops casts in progress and is an aggro tool.

There's also Holy Wrath for the undead casters, but doesn't apply in this instance.

*sigh*

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Then, I was a warlock
And a mage
And a paladin
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Man. Last night. Heroic Gundrak, with a tank. I'd armory him, but his gear wasn't actually that horrible (26k or something hp, and well.. near the crit cap, at least?) and his spec was in the same boat. But I knew we were in trouble when he pulled the first group by running up to them and chains of icing one.

I think a groupmate took on the task of educating him, as he started to use dnd partway through the instance. I was on my rogue, so TotT helped out a lot. The plus side to a tank like this is I got to play hero by Kidney Shotting mobs about to murder our Hunter (who didn't know about FD?) So.. that's always fun. :p

We actually made it to the final boss without any complete wipes, and the one wipe we had then was likely just due to him being crit or something. But cool part! On try 2, the tank died when Gal'darah was around 40%, and I somehow managed to tank him on my rogue. Evasion tanking isn't anything ridiculous, but our group was mostly lower geared folks to begin with, so Evasion wore off long before he died. Some divine force took pity on us, I think, and made me dodge and parry like a ninja. Note that my Rogue still has one or two green items on, so tanking Gal'darah should be right out of the question, but as luck would have it... :p

Death and Decay is not always the best AOE choice for a DK tank. Indeed, I rarely use it on mine. 2 Rune Frost Tanking (HW > OB > BB > BB for AoE) (HW > OB > BS > BS> OB > OB > OB) is generally superior threat.

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This guy was blood.

He actually kept threat on Moorabi despite my Rogue going full out. I don't know if the Hunter used Misdirect, but Adrenaline Rush alongside Tricks is probably a good help to his threat. Gal'darah was fine too, threatwise.

But when it was a 3 or 4 mob pull? I'm pretty sure he was single targeting for the first while in the instance. I'd use my normal Tricks -> FoK spam to help burn through Heroics, but 3 Fan of Knives is not much threat on any individual mob. I'd generally start with that, then SS one and use SND with that combo point, switch targets lest I steal aggro on the one I just SSd, and then often ended up targeting the one that the Hunter pulled aggro on so I could Kidney Shot it. Good times.

Had he kept aggro fine without using DND I would never even have thought of this thread, but alas that was not to be. I go into heroics with my Rogue expecting people to deride me for my gear, but when I feel that Tricks and chain stunning mobs to save people are a big boon to the group, it is a sad day indeed!

Blood Requires 2 Disease Pestilence + Blood Boil Sequencing for AOE Threat and pulls your runes out of Whack with Death and Decay. It's generally a little smarter to let him build threat first.

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That's interesting. Most of the DK's I see toss a DnD down and it's all good.

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It is my understanding that DND is always the "best", but not strictly in terms of pure threat. It definitely has a convenience and assurance edge over BB. Mobs in heroics like to stand all nicely grouped up to begin with, and you don't run the risk of the healer aggroing a bunch of them because of ticking hots before you can spread your diseases.

If they didn't die so fast and longer term threat mattered more, then I wouldn't be sad to not see dnd anymore (perhaps beyond initial aggro, depending on if they're already grouped up or not). In any case, I have run with an alt tank in my guild who doesn't use dnd, and it works pretty well. If this DK in the group were doing that, I wouldn't mind. But by single target, I really mean single target. No spread diseases and Boiling Blood spam. I think his diseases were being spread, because the healer wasn't pulling aggro each pull, but anything I tried to dps beyond 2 or 3 GCDs was definitely aggroing on me.

...and having to wait in a heroic? Just not fun! Though a sub-10 minute Azjol-Nerub still eludes us... Anub is not at all cooperative with all that submerging.

I really wish THAT **** could be interrupted!

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Darksiege
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Death and Decay works best in an Unholy Spec. I only use Death and Decay with my Frost Tank when there are more than 4 mobs, but even then I'll lose the pack 5-6 seconds after initial aggro because I'm rune ****. But, Death Knights are pretty much Single Target tanks now anyway. Plus, because of all the changes to Balance Ret, there's a viable DPS Tank Spec for Protection Paladins. It's kind of scary watching your MT maintain 16k DPS through the front side Trash in ICC and then drop 6.5k DPS on Marrowgar.

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Any more failboat passangers?

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I joined a random daily the other day as a healer on my priest (normally shadow but queue is sooo much faster as heals). The warrior tank charges into the first pack of mobs in H UK and it is then that I notice that he's wielding 2 huge honkin' weapons. I was stunned, tried to type something in chat about tanking in fury and then as he died and the dps started taking heavy damage I decided I didn't even want to stay around to sort out this train wreck and disbanded.

Looked at his armory afterwards and he was wearing mostly pvp and pve dps gear, with 2-3 tanking pieces, one an ilvl 141 epic bracer.

Name was Jdonis, don't recall the server and can't access the armory from work. But if you really want to look at him he was the only player by that name.

Holy Paladin - Ipwngnomes, I believe. His gear was fine (though admittedly I didn't look too far into it). His ability? ugh.

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