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 Post subject: Racism Dead?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:17 pm 
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Hardly. Gotta have that professional basketball league for all white players. You can't make this **** up

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I saw that earlier today. It seems really odd to me, but then I didn't read up on it to see the stated motivation. Even then, I cannot imagine a motivation that makes a lot of sense.

On the other hand, I seriously doubt anyone would argue that racism is dead. You can see examples of it on this board nearly every day, in linked articles.


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Interestingly, the only non-biased (as in scientific bias, specifically circular-citation) source I can find with a quick use of the Googlez is for a startup league in 1977 that lasted 1 season of 40 games.

There are no AABA sites currently in existence, though another non-biased source mentioned an attempt in 2004 to restart the 1977 league.

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Monte wrote:
Hardly. Gotta have that professional basketball league for all white players. You can't make this **** up


Should the NBA be required to employ a minimum percentage of white players?

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At least one blogger, this one from the Village Voice - not known for a conservative point of view - thinks its a hoax. I agree, so yeah, sombody made this **** up.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... _all-a.php


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All-White "All-American Basketball Alliance" Sounds Fake, But Fun Anyway
By Roy Edroso in Featured, Hate Crime, Sports
Wednesday, Jan. 20 2010 @ 3:53PM

​We've been looking at all the news reports about an alleged all-white All-American Basketball Alliance, players in which must be able to prove descent from two Caucasian parents. They are supposedly looking for towns in which to play. We have to say it looks pretty bogus: Who's going to start a new basketball league without a web site, rad gear and merch, or commercial tie-ins?

Nonetheless we enjoy the ruse, and the opportunity to feel superior to the racist assholes of the fake league, in disapproval of which Americans will probably find themselves more united than they will ever be about anything else, ever again.

We note that the genius behind the AABA, Don "Moose" Lewis, was formerly a promoter of the International Wrestling Union, and knows something about creating a carnival atmosphere. It's possible he's sincere about this, but so far the press has been pretty negative, so we assume he's just trying to get his name back in the papers. But who knows? Maybe the guys at Free Republic will get into it, and invite Lewis to place teams in whatever swamps and hollers they live in. Then we'll see how serious he is.

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So I guess you can make this **** up...?


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If it's true. It's a private organisation, do private organisations get to have say in who they take in or not?

The fact that it's a stupid idea (and I think it is) shouldn't take aware from the rights of the individuals and the organisations they run.

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Not sure to put this in the brown thread or this one

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/20/o ... ed-racist/

Apparently Olberman thinks Racism is why Brown won. The state that went for Obama by a incredible margin is suddenly racist? Many you liberals have worn out that charge so badly.

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Interesting to learn that pickup trucks are racist too.

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Remember how do you spot a racist....They are winning an argument with a Lib.

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You must keep in mind Olbermann needs to suck on the business end of a Mossberg. He is a moron and a mindless drone.

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Not a hoax, sadly. You can contact the guy in charge if you like.

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Monte wrote:
Not a hoax, sadly. You can contact the guy in charge if you like.


No problem... I'll just go to the league's website.... oh wait.

Or maybe I'll look them up in the phone directory.... oh wait.

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I am sure it will be an immense financial and entertainment success....

On a side note, Monty would it be racist to found a whites only college fund? A Caucasian Congressional Caucus? A male only school (not that anyone wants to go to that sausage fest)?

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Monte wrote:
Not a hoax, sadly. You can contact the guy in charge if you like.
Do you have any evidence to substantiate this claim?

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I am sure it will be an immense financial and entertainment success....

On a side note, Monty would it be racist to found a whites only college fund? A Caucasian Congressional Caucus? A male only school (not that anyone wants to go to that sausage fest)?


Yes, it would. Of course, the black versions of those are just as racist.


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I am sure it will be an immense financial and entertainment success....

On a side note, Monty would it be racist to found a whites only college fund? A Caucasian Congressional Caucus? A male only school (not that anyone wants to go to that sausage fest)?


Yes, it would. Of course, the black versions of those are just as racist.


No they aren't.


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All I've been able to substantiate so far is that Don "The Moose" Lewis is a real person, and was at some point a boxing and wrestling promoter.

I came across this snippet in the Wikipedia article for John "The Body" Johnson:

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For the rest of 1998 John would work for several promotions as a referee. When a few wrestlers from the old War Zone promotion decided to run their own promotion, John was brought in as a referee, as well as the company's webmaster. The new promotion called Millennium Wrestling Alliance, would run for several months until making the decision to work with a new promoter named Don "The Moose" Lewis and his International Wrestling Union (IWU).

IWU and Don Lewis

In the Summer of 1998 a new promoter emerged on the scene booking some of the biggest names from WCW, WWF, and the indies. Don Lewis ran his first IWU show at the Cobb County Civic Center that year. John despite never having met Don Lewis, actually worked this event as security, but as he has stated several times before, "was only paid a t-shirt, for 7 hours of work." The show was a major failure, due in part that many of the names booked for the show, either cancelled or were never booked to begin with. Another major complaint was the length of the show (a reported 6 hours), and ticket prices (starting at $25 and as expensive as $100). John officially went to work for the IWU that fall, as MWA began promoting shows in conjunction with the IWU. By December, the decision was made to merge the two companies and begin promoting shows throughout north and central Georgia. For the first 5 months of that year IWU was promoting no less than 16 shows a month in various cities. John started as a heel referee, but was also working in the office as Director of Operations.

It was during this time that John would also get to break away from his referee duties, and get a chance at a new venture. The IWU did not have television at this time, but would do live commentary during the matches. When the IWU's usual ring announcer quit minutes before a show in Barnesville, Georgia, John decided to take over the duties, since there were five referees and only 7 matches. John would then become the voice of the IWU for the next few months until his short departure in the Summer of 1999. The IWU's first venture out of Georgia was a poorly promoted event at the Boutwell Auditorium in Birmingham, Alabama in June 1999. Once again outrageous ticket prices and a card of legendary wrestlers made it a financial failure. The event drew less than 50 fans (8 paid and about 30 free tickets showed. After slow ticket sales a reported 200 tickets were given out, none showed). John would leave the IWU for a short time over a pay dispute, and a war of words ensued between Lewis and Johnson and Lewis' wife many which played out on various internet message boards and Johnson's personal website.

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After leaving the IWU, John began working many of the shows he was told he could not work while employed by the IWU. He quickly became a respected announcer and commentator injecting both a knowledge of wrestling and humor to live commentary. He went back to work for the IWU after Lewis secured a TV Spot, and agreed to pay John the money he was owed. John continued to work for the IWU in his old job as Director of Operations. On camera he was a ring announcer, color commentator, and even played his real life role as Director of Operations. Behind the scenes he was also a writer, and producer for the IWU TV product. He also finally got his manager spot, doing a babyface turn on Don Lewis by becoming the manager of the Odd Squad. The Odd Squad was a group of wrestlers who had been feuding with Don Lewis and his stable of wrestlers. John continued managing the Odd Squad until he the IWU folded in the Spring of 2000. [...]


I haven't been able to find any more details yet. From the sounds of it, though, this guy has a history of pulling scams and bad publicity hoaxes. With the history (sketchy as it is) and the fact that this press release was conveniently made on MLK day, I'm leaning towards the bad publicity hoax theory.

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I heard a clip about this on the radio this morning. Something about a basketball league that's about the basics; a twelve team league with the league champion facing off against some all-black mvp team or something. Not sure where they got their info though.

The clip did have a snippet from a recorded interview with the founder of the league though, so it seems legit.


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I heard a clip about this on the radio this morning. Something about a basketball league that's about the basics; a twelve team league with the league champion facing off against some all-black mvp team or something. Not sure where they got their info though.

The clip did have a snippet from a recorded interview with the founder of the league though, so it seems legit.


Wait.. so there ARE all-black MVP teams? Where was monty's post on that one? or did I miss it?


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Wait.. so there ARE all-black MVP teams? Where was monty's post on that one? or did I miss it?

Some of us live in the US, where all-anything-as-long-as-it's-not-white is fine. The Harlem Globetrotters are a decent example of this, I would think. I'm not up to date on what's going on with them exactly, but as far as I know it's still an all-black basketball team that beats up on an all-white basketball team in the name of comedy. Of course, if the roles were reversed it would be racist.

*edit* rereading that post after I wrote it makes me believe that it may come across as slightly condescending; such is not my intent and I apologize if it came across as so.


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It's okay.. I kinda figured it was so but wasn't aware of the extent.. plus basketball is not my thing...

So what exactly is the problem with an all white basketball team if you guys already has a race based team precedent?


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Um... because its racist?

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