The Glade 4.0

I heard it's *objectively true* too!!

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

This does not reflect the truth. There was no formal training on Sunday in our cycle. Normal
barracks tasks assigned to the squads, square away your gear, write letters home, form up for meals, sleep atop your covers and don't disturb the cadre.

You had to be a complete mess to get "smoked" on a Sunday.

So once again you overstate your point D.E.

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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." Charles Mackay

None of which is "free time".

If you weren't going to go to church, they would have had to keep you occupied during that time anyhow. You can't be working on squad tasks; the whole squad isn't there and then you'd be ***** you had to work while they went to church. You can't be given extra time to accomplish things like laundry and letter writing because then you're being given extra time for personal tasks that those who wish to observe religious services aren't being given. You can't be given free time for the same reason. Church time is time for religious observance, not for "religious obsrvance for those who feel like it, free time for those who don't." It's only given because it's a legal requirement. If you don't wish to observe services, there's no requirement to give you equal time to do whatever the **** you feel like.

No one got smoked on the rest of Sunday because you were all there and they didn't need to come up with something for just part of the training cycle to do - except those that needed it.

So no, I don't overstate my point "once again" because A) I didn' overstate it in the first place and B) all you're demonstrating here is that the Drill Sergeants had to come up with something to occupy part of the unit while the rest were at church, and by getting you to all go, they didn't have to. Do you seriously think all those DIs were evangelical fanatics that really cared about getting you to love Jesus? Look at your own post about Sunday activities.. "Don't bother the cadre"... Gee, what have I been saying was the point of tricking you into going to church all along?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

We could go to services or get an extra 2 hours sleep. After that it was clean the bay and do laundry and other assorted ****. To our DI every day was PT (even run days) so we went out in the pit between lunch and dinner.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

What year and where did you go to basic again? I've never met a drill sergeant that let people get an extra 2 hours sleep for any reason.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Maybe it was an hour? It was def extra sleep on Sunday if you didn't go to services.

93 and Fort. McClellan
DI Collins

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Please don't tell me you guys had the "stress cards" too.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

What the hell is that?

I was pissed we weren't allowed to curse in our cadences. They yelled at us once for saying "kick your ***" at another company.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." Charles Mackay

Actually, we heard from Achmed quite frequently.



Heh.. it's a canard is what it is. Evidently at one point the Navy issued cards to new sailors that had the phone numbers for various support resources on it. Somehow this morphed into a story in which Air Force, Army, and Navy (never the Marines; no one would believe it) recruits get issued a yellow card they can wave at the Drill Sergeant if they are feeling "too stressed" so that, depending on the version, the DI must either cease some offensive behavior or must give them a minute to compose themselves.

Of course, giving carte blanche to recruits to tell the DI to stop any time wouldn't work for obvious reasons, and the rumor actually caused the Navy to can the phone number cards. I was really just giving you a hard time.

As for the swearing, yeah, that kind of sucks but I'm not terribly surprised. About the only place you can go anymore that you'll get that more hard-edged basic is Benning, since its where all the infantry goes, and no females. The Army has, at least in TRADOC-world decided that it's 1955 and females are offended by swearing- ostensibly. I think it just doesn't fit with the ultra-wholesome soldier image that recruiting campaigns use. Some people are offended by swearing but it doesn't correspond to gender.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Trijicon backs down

With a 660 million dollar contract at stake, not very surprising. I guess just spread the word when profitable and convenient.

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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." Charles Mackay

Yeah, cause that has any semblance to their stated reason for it.

Statements from the Trijicon website, emphasis mine:

http://www.trijicon.com/whats_new.cfm?whats_newID=169#169

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Sounds like a good company quickly responding to the concerns of it's customer. Nice to see.

Or maybe they think that avoiding a controversy that negatively affects the information aspect of the war (the "crusade" bit) and therefore affects the troops is more important than "spreading the word" in a totally ineffectual way.

Or maybe they decided they're not "spreading the word" but bringing scorn and negativity on it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

In his face!

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The Dude abides.

Did you just criticize the company for putting the text on, and then criticize them for removing it?

Yes. Remember, if you're religious anything you do is always automatically wrong.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I guess I don't believe that to be as rare an occurence as you, sir.

Oh well.

At least the military will still get their ACOG awesomeness.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

I did not criticize them for putting it on, just the military for buying them in the first place. I find it hard to believe that additions to a serial number on military hardware would go totally unnoticed.

And hells yes I am criticizing them for taking it off. If it was well inspired to put it on in the first place don't you think "god" might take issue with them buckling so easily.







And I stand by what I said.

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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." Charles Mackay

I've already addressed why we cannot assume that taking off the inscription is displeasing to God, and in fact it may be entirely to His pleasure. One must not cast pearls before swine.

It's patently obvious that you're just looking for reasons to take issue with people who believe something you don't, and thin excuses to create the impression of hypocrisy.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Adrak, initially I thought as you did, but as I mentioned before I think it must be a kind of "pick your battles" type issue.
I think this company sets a better example for chrisians everywhere and will reach more people with the wonderful example they are setting as far as how a christian should behave.

Also, their website says:



I don't think I have to mention again the other quote where they mentioned they took the scripture off so as not to hinder the fulfilling of the needs of the troops as far as weapons go.
If they would have put up a fight with the scriptures they would have done more harm than good.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

I didn't indicate that it was rare. I was purely trying to show my appreciation for good companies that understand customer service.

That's truly disgusting.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Cool.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine