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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:58 pm 
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You may or may not have heard me lament when Mozilla dropped the steaming
pile that was F.F. 3.0, but there seems to be hope now.

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Next on Mozilla's schedule after Firefox 3.6 is a minor update to Firefox 3.6 code-named Lorentz. The major feature of this release will be out-of-process plug-ins (OOPP), which isolates execution of plug-ins like Adobe's Flash or Apple's Quicktime into a separate process.


If you like blingy thingy's there are personas for this upgrade.

Good news though, after the upgraded F.F. is no longer choking on the php wysiwyg for this board and I have yet to crash my streaming audio.

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Both of these are features from Chrome. It's good to see them getting adopted by other browsers.

Incidentally, PHP is entirely server-side, so it wouldn't make any difference to your browser one way or another.

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Stathol wrote:

Incidentally, PHP is entirely server-side, so it wouldn't make any difference to your browser one way or another.


I'm aware that on phpbb3 boards the "insert html tags" are rendered in my browser and that my installation of FF3.0 always borked the braces when I pasted into the post editor or "wysiwyg" , thus requiring previewing and debugging before posting.

I could have been more concise in my original post though.

I've written some of my own insert tags for formatting images and some flash media.
I wrote the only ones available on the net for the blip fm and tv players.

I had some help though, there are some good tutorials on youtube that show the basic
codes for youtube and google video.

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Hmmm...I don't know what that's all about, honestly. The client-side aspect of the WYSIWIG editor is driven by Javascript, though the javascript code itself is, I'm sure, generated by a PHP plug-in module like the ones you wrote. I don't know why FF3.0 would be messing up the javascript execution. I've used FF3.0 and FF3.5 myself with lots of phpbb3 boards, and never had that trouble, so I'm at a loss to explain it. There may have been something hinky in your FF profile that got ironed out during the upgrade process.

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I was using Iron today and it was doing the same thing. The 3.6 is still stable though.

It may be a Windows issue that 3.6 finally addressed?

I don't auto-update my XP SP2 installations.

I can use JS but my understanding does not extend to browser design.

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Well, unlike an actual compiled Java application -- which requires some 3rd-party virtual machine (aka runtime environment) -- Javascript is executed directly by the browser's own built-in javascript engine. It shouldn't have any external dependencies which are unique to java, so it's strange that two completely different browsers with completely different Javascript engines would exhibit the exact same behavior. Very strange indeed.

Are you by any chance using the GreaseMonkey extension in Firefox and the GreaseMetal extension in Iron/Chrome? Some people do this in order to implement a custom client-side ignore feature for phpbb2 boards (like the Glade 3.0). If so, a glitch in that script could hork the way the page renders, but you'd have to be using that script in both browsers. I'm not sure that they're directly portable from GreaseMonkey to GreaseMetal, though.

What exactly did you say it was doing, again?

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Hmmm...wait -- this happens when you're copying text into the browser from another application? Copying and pasting relies on Window's OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) APIs, which are all sorts of crazy voodoo. There may be something going wrong with the pasting process, maybe because of some busted COM object registration or whatnot.

What app are you cutting the text from? Better yet, check out the actual contents of the clipboard with InsideClipboard. This is a neat little freeware utility that will give you a low-level view of the various items currently stored in the clipboard, including a hex and ASCII dump of all the formats. Whenever you cut/copy something to the clipboard, several different items in different formats are actually generated to better support pasting into a foreign application.

You should be able to look at what was actually copied into the clipboard to verify whether it's being corrupted on the copy side or on the paste side.

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Stathol wrote:
Hmmm...wait -- this happens when you're copying text into the browser from another application? Copying and pasting relies on Window's OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) APIs, which are all sorts of crazy voodoo. There may be something going wrong with the pasting process, maybe because of some busted COM object registration or whatnot.

What app are you cutting the text from?


Everything I copy ends up in the editor, problem is the following brace gets munched?

Explorer?

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I just downgraded from 3.6 back to 3.5.7, because 3.6 broke my Aspera plugin, and was improperly pulling a font called "UglyFace" instead of "Times New Roman."


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Did you try updating to the newest version of Aspera?

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