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If you did agree with that, you would agree to keep inflation low.

If you don't believe it is a tax, then you would have no reason to want to reduce inflation and monetary expansion.

And you still haven't addressed this:

"We could take income, corporate payroll, capital gains windfalls etc. taxes to 0 and just use inflation through monetization to pay for everything. By your logic, we'd have no taxes and all social programs could be paid for for free."

Do you think this would be a good approach? Would you be able to convince the American public that there wouldn't be any taxes?

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The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Yes. Which we currently do.





Well, there wouldn't be any "taxes", and we could not afford the things we need to do under such a system.

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You could afford them. There wouldn't be any income tax, remember? Or SS/Medicare/Medicaid witholdings, etc. I'm going to discount State Income tax for the sake of discussion.

You'd more or less be able to buy the things you can now, in the immediacy. But the reason it's insidious is because without knowing the total budgetary expenditures for all government programs and agencies, spending would be unacountable. It would just show up in rising prices.

What do you mean "we currently do"?

We don't currently keep inflation low, if we did, or if we wanted to, we'd tie our currency down to a peg (which would eliminate inflation becaue the peg would be make it very easy to see how much monetization was happening), we'd cut spending proportional to the budget based on revenue projections or we'd increase taxes to meet budget requirements.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Oh, I doubt it. Health care is not like a pair of shoes. You absolutely need quality health care to survive. It's not a commodity like pork or carrots.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

/facepalm

You still pay for them in dollars. Unfortunately, for your philosophy, health care is a commoditity. It is subject to the laws of supply and demand, marginal costs and revenues just like everything else.

Now you are arguing against your initial position. I would posit that the case would be prices would spiral out of controls with wages racing, and failing, to maintain pace.

Remember your initial statement:

"they [consumption taxes] saddle those least able to handle such a burden with the majority of the overall tax burden."

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Actually, in my philosophy, Health Care is a right. I will happily take reforms that lead us closer to that situation. I think we should have a NHS style system. Failing that as a political possibility, I prefer something like Medicare for all. Failing *that*, I will take regulatory reforms and subsidies.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Except it's not. If health care were free to administer, you might have an argument. It's not. It costs resources.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

You might say it isn't, but we disagree. I see it as no different than national security, police/fire/rescue, disaster relief, and natural resource management. It's a necessary function of government, as far as I am concerned.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

None of which are *free* to administer. There's still overhead in all of those departments.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Ok, and? I never argued if they were necessary or not. In my opinion some are, some aren't. Those are for social debate to decide. It's a matter of subjectivity.

But that doesn't change the fact they aren't free. Do you argue they are free? That's the only possible contention you could have to what I posted, because that's all I posted.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones