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http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/wpix-desk-doodling-arrest,0,4334965.story

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FOREST HILLS, N.Y. (WPIX) - A 12-year-old student was arrested and quickly branded a delinquent after she apparently doodled her name on a classroom desk.

Alexa Gonzalez, a student at Junior High School 190 in Forest Hills, was led out of school Monday in handcuffs for simply writing "Lex was here. 2/1/10" accompanied with the classic smiley face. Gonzalez says she was trying to kill time while she waited for her Spanish teacher to pass out homework.

Using an erasable lime-green magic marker, she also wrote "I love my friends Abby and Faith" on the desk.

Gonzalez, who has a spotless attendance record, said she was shocked when she was handcuffed and taken into custody at the police precinct across the street from the school.

According to the 12-year-old's mother, her daughter was questioned and released several hours after she was initially detained.

Gonzalez appeared in family court Tuesday where she was assigned eight hours of community service, a book report and an essay on what she learned from her mistake.

Nearly a week after the incident, Department of Education officials are now acknowledging that Gonzalez' arrest should have never happened.

"The principal made a mistake and has lifted the suspension," a DOE spokesman told PIX News in a statement. "The child may return school. The principal is speaking to the parent today."


Nice to know that I would have gone to jail as a 12 year old...

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Sorry Mrs. Rodent, I hate to inform your crimes would have constituted high and aggravated vandalism, as you were using permanent ink, not the erasable version used in the above commission of crime. For your heinous act, the minimum sentence is caning.


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Writing on desks is fun because sometimes another person will respond with another message.


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Quite ridiculous. I am going to pose this one to Oonagh later. I am interested on how she would have handled this in her class. Suffice it to say it would not have ended in handcuffing a 12 year old

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Sorry Mrs. Rodent, I hate to inform your crimes would have constituted high and aggravated vandalism, as you were using permanent ink, not the erasable version used in the above commission of crime. For your heinous act, the minimum sentence is caning.


I read this as canning, which would be a much more horrible punishment.

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Squirrel Girl wrote:
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Nice to know that I would have gone to jail as a 12 year old...

Same here. For me, the Student Council and a teacher were waiting for me in the room one day.

I had already been disciplined for "writing on my shoe" in class, in 4th grade. I tried to tell the teacher that I was only using the pencil to scrape some gum off my shoe after recess, not writing on my shoe, but she sent me to the principal's office anyway. Then, the next year, my mom sent me to private school, where I got popped for writing on desks. And numerous other private-school offenses, come to think of it.

I once idly wrote part of the lyrics to "Quiche Lorraine" by the B-52s on a desk in college. Came back a couple of weeks later to find them continued. That was funny.

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Aethien wrote:
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Nice to know that I would have gone to jail as a 12 year old...

Same here. For me, the Student Council and a teacher were waiting for me in the room one day.

I had already been disciplined for "writing on my shoe" in class, in 4th grade. I tried to tell the teacher that I was only using the pencil to scrape some gum off my shoe after recess, not writing on my shoe, but she sent me to the principal's office anyway. Then, the next year, my mom sent me to private school, where I got popped for writing on desks. And numerous other private-school offenses, come to think of it.

I once idly wrote part of the lyrics to "Quiche Lorraine" by the B-52s on a desk in college. Came back a couple of weeks later to find them continued. That was funny.


By any chance are you a writer?

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Adrak wrote:
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Nice to know that I would have gone to jail as a 12 year old...

Same here. For me, the Student Council and a teacher were waiting for me in the room one day.

I had already been disciplined for "writing on my shoe" in class, in 4th grade. I tried to tell the teacher that I was only using the pencil to scrape some gum off my shoe after recess, not writing on my shoe, but she sent me to the principal's office anyway. Then, the next year, my mom sent me to private school, where I got popped for writing on desks. And numerous other private-school offenses, come to think of it.

I once idly wrote part of the lyrics to "Quiche Lorraine" by the B-52s on a desk in college. Came back a couple of weeks later to find them continued. That was funny.


By any chance are you a writer?

In some fashion, yes, why? Seeing some common character traits between me and, say, Mark Twain?!

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I read this as drooling.


Was utterly confused.

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I kidnapped the science department skeleton and held it for ransom (as an obvious joke). When I discovered that it was a real person and worth approximately $10,000, I returned it with an apology letter by dressing it up and leaving it chilling in a chair in a science teacher's driveway. My accomplice blabbed to some friends, and we were caught. I did not get punished.

These days, I don't know how a kid can hope to get through public school unscathed and with a clean record. My kid stands no chance.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
These days, I don't know how a kid can hope to get through public school unscathed and with a clean record. My kid stands no chance.



If you make everyone a "criminal" it makes it easier to keep them in line.

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Oh yeah, our black administrator did accuse me of being racist because I signed the ransom note "Los Banditos".

That guy was such a prick.


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One day I was looking at the entry way to my high school lobby, I was bored waiting for my mother to come pick me up. I noted to one of the other students that all it would take would be a Phillips Screwdriver and a Crescent Wrench to dismantle the entire front entryway to the school.

Two days later the head coach's car was found in the school's front lobby. someone had taken apart the front entryway, driven the car in and put the entryway back together.

By that afternoon the Principal had figured out how it was done, and the school entryway was once more disassembled, the car driven out and the bolts and screws purposely stripped to prevent recurrence.

Two months later one of the windows was accidentally broken by the maintenance staff, ladder slipped and fell through it and bent part of the window frame. They had a hell of a time drilling out the screws and bolts so they could repair the frame and the window.

I wasn't involved with any of that, except as a spectator. I never mentioned that I had figured out how to get the front of the school open or who I told it to.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I kidnapped the science department skeleton and held it for ransom (as an obvious joke). When I discovered that it was a real person and worth approximately $10,000, I returned it with an apology letter by dressing it up and leaving it chilling in a chair in a science teacher's driveway. My accomplice blabbed to some friends, and we were caught. I did not get punished.

These days, I don't know how a kid can hope to get through public school unscathed and with a clean record. My kid stands no chance.


That's **** hilarious!

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By any chance are you a writer?

In some fashion, yes, why? Seeing some common character traits between me and, say, Mark Twain?!

No, just enjoy reading, thx

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Adrak wrote:
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By any chance are you a writer?

In some fashion, yes, why? Seeing some common character traits between me and, say, Mark Twain?!

No, just enjoy reading, thx

Ah, OK, thanks. Nice to hear.

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We may have broken into our school late one night, using a copy of the master key that I had acquired, followed by swift deactivation of the alarm using the codes that I knew, and finallyproceeding to fill the principal's office with several thousand crickets.

Then we may have reset the alarm and re-locked all the doors on the way out.

*whistles innocently*

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So it's okay to destroy property since it's "just the school system"? I'll admit the handcuffs is a bit over the top, but it's not like the schools have tons of our money to replace the desks because someone felt the need to "express themselves"

It used to be the fear of our parents finding out was enough to be a reasonable deterrant for this kind of thing. However in many cases that's just not so.

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She's a criminal. Juvie for her.

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Some serious, some silly in the comment below.

Using markers to write with is just a gateway usage to sniffing them.

The solvents and other chemicals used to create markers kill brain cells. They have become a popular cheap and legal inhalant high.

Of course, making them illegal without a replacement to mark up flip charts and white boards would be an economic blow to offices everywhere.

Still, think of the children.

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we had an official muck-up day *stuffing up day* for the end of the final year, it was banned a couple of years after I graduated though. For our year, we had the usual toilet papering the basketball court, spray painting witty comments on teacher's doors, putting washing powder in the fountain... etc etc etc. Someone also bought a whole pig and dressed it up like our saint and stuck it right next to the old one.

It was a handing down of batons as we left school and the year below us got to clean up our mess and know that the reward would be their own at the end of the year. I feel so sorry for kids these days as they are not allowed to express their 'creative' side.


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So it's okay to destroy property since it's "just the school system"? I'll admit the handcuffs is a bit over the top, but it's not like the schools have tons of our money to replace the desks because someone felt the need to "express themselves"

It used to be the fear of our parents finding out was enough to be a reasonable deterrant for this kind of thing. However in many cases that's just not so.


I don't think anyone is saying it's "ok". However, all kids make mistakes and do dumb things as they grow up. Tossing them in jail is the wrong answer.

In this particular instance, what should have been done is for the girl to be spending her time after school cleaning desks, and removing her writing as well as that of any other students.


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I don't think anyone is saying it's "ok". However, all kids make mistakes and do dumb things as they grow up. Tossing them in jail is the wrong answer.

In this particular instance, what should have been done is for the girl to be spending her time after school cleaning desks, and removing her writing as well as that of any other students.

This.


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