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Oh, it's there, seething ... barely beneath the surface...

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We're not talking about saying "**** it" to putting outlet covers in. We're talking about how needless it is to pass legislation mandating outlet covers.

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I think you have me confused with someone who thinks this needs government action.

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I wonder how many kids died from suffocation from those flimsy garment bags?

Eh, pass a law, put the label across the front of a Ball Park Frank package. No skin off my weiner.

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Where are you getting this information from as far as swelling while you eat it etc. I'm looking at older articles before this latest uproar and hotdogs are mentioned as a hazard, but along with gum, candy, popcorn, grapes, coins, baloons etc etc etc... nothing special about them that I'm seeing other than their shape.

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That's what the article is about, people lobbying for better labelling to be mandated, no?

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

So much win in this thread.

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No. Why would I consider it a moral outrage? Life has hazards. Some of those hazards are lethal.

I am very sorry for the woman's loss, and I am sad that a child died, but there is no reason for outrage.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

It's still a good idea to put outlet covers on your outlets, just like it's a good idea to cut hot dogs into tiny pieces for small children.

Howeve, if it's too much of a pain in the *** for you to cover your outlets, that's on you. Unless it starts happening to enough nephews and nieces that it starts become a statistically significant cause of death among young children there's no reason for the media, much less the government, to be getting in an uproar over it.

I almost choked on a nickel as a small child. Obviously coinage is incredibly dangerous. We really need the media to call attention to this, warning engravings on all our currency, and regulations to reduce the chance a child will choke on money.



Well, since the entire point of the thread is that someone is calling for government action regarding hot dogs, it's unclear why you're objecting to what everyone else is saying if you don't think it needs government action.

No one's saying it's a bad idea to take care with hot dogs or electrical outlets. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's statistically insignificant, and the OP article is inaccurately conveying the impression that there's some sort of meaningful problem.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

But if there is no need for moral outrage then why would it be a news story on the interweb?

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curiosity here - any mention of the heimlich manuver here? I mean heck, wasnt that the universal answer to choking hazards back in the day?

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Did I hear Heimlich Maneuver?

the alternative is to blender all the food and feed it to the little buggers by the spoon... space food for everyone!!!

Nah, you can choke on liquid, too.

Obviously the answer is to starve children to death so they won't choke.

There's countless risks in life. One of them will inevitably get you someday, and you'll be hospitalized or dead. This particular risk of choking on hot dogs doesn't really stand out, and doesn't warrant moral outrage.

"On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero." - Fight Club

See post 4 above yours.

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Tubal feeding.

It's already big business, just imagine once we force all the chirrun onto it.

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I bet you can choke on a tube

Hot dogs are extremely dangerous to small children. I wouldn't go so far as to say they're exceptionally dangerous to 4 year olds, but for toddlers very, very much so. They are called choke dogs by paramedics and CPR instructors.

Here's the problem. Any food with a "skin" that holds the food together is dangerous. Think hot dog, grapes, etc. You have to chew this food very well to adequately break it apart.

Add to this that hot dogs and grapes are classic kid foods, and you can surely see the problem.

I'll feed these foods to my toddler, but never the ends of the hot dog (these are the worst) and never before cutting the hot dog or grape down the middle.
And I always watch the child when he eats these.

The biggest problem is that most parents don't realize how dangerous they are. "It's just a hot dog". I can see some of that in the responses in this thread. A warning label would be appropriate.

Feed them through an enteral tube.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

How about rather than the gov't attempting to make everything nice and safe for people, people choose to (now I know this is a radical thought) educate themselves about what is good/bad/dangerous/helpful in order to adequately perform the most important duty of their lives?

The problem with protecting people from their own mistakes is that they to assume that the "protectors" will be there for everything; that leads to complacency and dependency. When the "protectors" haven't put padding on every sharp corner, someone will inevitably bump into one and demand: "Someone needs to put padding on that sharp corner!"

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Because that’s been done and it failed? I guarantee you, based on the responses here, if I had put up a poll (and people answered it honestly) that less than half would have known that hot dogs are more dangerous than a carrot, or pretty much any other food typically given to children. Are the people on this board uneducated? My wife is highly educated, and she had no idea.

So get off your high horse and realize that it’s not a bad idea to toss people a heads up once in a while. I’m not saying the government should necessarily require this, I said a warning would be appropriate. Furthermore, the suggestion that a warning label that says foods with skins can be dangerous would lead to a nanny state is so ridiculous it’s laughable.

Tons of people aren’t aware of the dangers of an apparently harmless, common food. Throw them a heads up. Don’t want to educate people because OMGZ NANNY STATE!!!1!? Lighten up, damn.

More dangerous than a carrot does not equate to dangerous enough to require a warning label.

How many children seriously injure themselves running into walls? Should we put a warning label on walls to inform the parents that unsupervised children could run into them and hurt themselves?

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Let's take a look at what you wrote, as well as what I wrote, since you obviously didn't read it the first time:

Ahhh, I see. Guess I missed that effort; must have been catastrophic when all the poor children died because their parents were unable to comprehend all that knowledge..

The warnings are out there, the classes exist, the internet is a font of knowledge; it's amazing that searching "child choking hazard" gave all kinds of information about hot dogs, but I guess folks can;t be bothered to read 100 **** words.

What you're advocating is a government mandated warning label. Unless you are advocating that people, gasp, educate themselves! At which point I go to:





Yup, guess that's what I said.


If people don't know about something then they are, by definition, uneducated on the subject. Why didn't people educate themselves about these things? My guess is that either they don't care enough about the welfare of their children and can't be bothered to get off their asses and learn about it, or they thought that they would be protected from their own ignorance.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Vindicarre: It's other people's job to raise little Johnny and little Susie, not the parents. They want to continue to go about their lives as though nothing has changed.

Gawd, get with the program.

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