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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- After cutting back on expenses and making some hard choices in the recession, it looks like it's time to go shopping.

At least that's the attitude of the nation's merchants. After a long dry spell, and restructuring moves that left them rich with cash and itching to bag some bargains, stores and sellers are shopping around for their rivals.

"These deals will help the better retailers become more innovative ... and in tune with what consumers want," said Love Goel, CEO of GVG Capital Group, a private equity firm that focuses on retail.

Retailers took the spotlight this month when No. 1 mall operator Simon Property Group (SPG) made a $10 billion all-cash bid for its troubled rival, No. 2 mall operator General Growth Properties (GGP). General Growth spurned Simon's bid, but that hasn't deterred Simon's interest.

In addition, Walgreens (WAG, Fortune 500), the largest U.S. drugstore chain, announced it was buying New York City-based rival Duane Reade in an all-cash offer of $1.1 billion.

Cathy Jaros, managing director of Amherst Partners, an investment banking firm, noticed a pick up in merger and acquisitions (M&A) late last year, including Kraft Foods' (KFT, Fortune 500) nearly $20 billion deal with Cadbury.

"Companies have decided to get their head out of the sand and that life goes on," said Cathy Jaros, managing director of Amherst Partners, an investment banking firm.

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Ken Lee, who heads the M&A practice at consulting firm A.T. Kearney, said the recent recession has created two buckets of retailers -- those who restructured their business to thrive and those who restructured to survive.

"Those who restructured to thrive are in a better position to grow and to do it through acquisitions," he said. The survivors, he said, are more vulnerable to being acquired.

Industry experts also say that cash-rich retailers aren't as reliant on private equity firms, as they have been in recent years to fund the mega-deals.

"Some corporations are coming out of the recession with stronger balance sheets and the cash to make strategic acquisitions on their own," said Justine MacFarlane, director in the retail practice at AlixPartners, a global business advisory firm.

MacFarlane expects the biggest volume of deals will happen among "middle market" retailers, or companies with sales of up to $2 billion.

GVG Capital's Goel highlighted four trends that could drive deals.

He said "orphan" divisions in large conglomerates, "divisions that have fallen out of favor with their parent company," are good targets.

InterActive Corp., headed by CEO Barry Diller, could likely shed some of its retail assets, Goel said.

"There are also companies that should not be public," he said. "These buyout targets typically have cash flow of less than $25 million (and) have growth potential, but are spending too much money just to remain public."

He cited Bluefly (BFLY), an online seller of designer clothing and accessories, and teen clothing chain Delia's (DLIA) as examples.

"A private equity partner could provide the money and expertise to grow these chains," he said.

Another target group is well-run, private companies that need more money to support their growth.

"These are companies with $100 million to $1 billion in sales," he said, including Dots, an Ohio-based clothing chain with 400 stores, and Bluestem Brands, an Eden Prairie, Minn.-based merchant and online seller.

Goel also said companies that simply have too much debt, typically owned by private equity firms, are prime takeover candidates.

"Companies like Brookstone and Oriental Trading have strong brands but their businesses have suffered from unrealistic expectations and too much overhang," he said.

Looking at her sectors, Amherst Partners' Jaros said many large companies are looking at ways to attain national distribution of their goods.

"Refrigerated foods companies tend to be regional players. So a big foods company can acquire these type of regional players to get a national footprint," she said.

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"Through mergers and acquisitions, companies can cull overlapping stores and underperforming stores from their portfolio," AlixPartners' MacFarlane said.

What's left are better-funded stores that have a reason to exist and are selling things that consumers want to buy.

If these deals help consolidate the U.S. retailing industry, Goel and others say it's a positive for consumers.

"The bad retailers are already dying. The economy has killed them," he said.


So less competition is good for consumers. That makes sense. An economic oligarchy of mega-merchants will naturally lead to better prices, not price-fixing. For sure. Also I bet this means more jobs somehow too.

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So less competition is good for consumers. That makes sense. An economic oligarchy of mega-merchants will naturally lead to better prices, not price-fixing. For sure. Also I bet this means more jobs somehow too.

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It's more logistically and administratively efficient to have large-scale merchants bringing products to the consumer.


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This is why recessions are a good thing. Good, strong companies, buy up the dead weight, or the dead weight goes out of business. It opens up the market for new businesses.

Also, too much competition is very bad for the economy, as it drives prices down too low. It's self correcting though, low prices will drive some of them out of business.

Also, Hopwin, if you're right and low competition drives prices up, guess what will happen? More people will get into the business to get some of that money. That will drive prices back down.

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I have to agree with Arathain here. Less competition also drives people into creating small businesses. This creates more intelligent competitors who keep the large corporations on their toes.

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This is why recessions are a good thing. Good, strong companies, buy up the dead weight, or the dead weight goes out of business. It opens up the market for new businesses.

Also, too much competition is very bad for the economy, as it drives prices down too low. It's self correcting though, low prices will drive some of them out of business.

Also, Hopwin, if you're right and low competition drives prices up, guess what will happen? More people will get into the business to get some of that money. That will drive prices back down.

All is well.

This model doesn't seem to be standing up to the test of Walmart.
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I have to agree with Arathain here. Less competition also drives people into creating small businesses. This creates more intelligent competitors who keep the large corporations on their toes.

This would contradict the principle of economies of scale.

At some point an organization becomes so large that it no longer allows for competition. See also: Microsoft (Linux, Apple aside since they account for about 7-10% of the market depending on the survey).

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This is why recessions are a good thing. Good, strong companies, buy up the dead weight, or the dead weight goes out of business. It opens up the market for new businesses.

Also, too much competition is very bad for the economy, as it drives prices down too low. It's self correcting though, low prices will drive some of them out of business.

Also, Hopwin, if you're right and low competition drives prices up, guess what will happen? More people will get into the business to get some of that money. That will drive prices back down.

All is well.

This model doesn't seem to be standing up to the test of Walmart.


That's not really fair, though. There are tons of small retailers. A small retailer is not going to be able to compete with WalMart, because what they do is... everything. If you add up all the small business in all sectors covered by WalMart, I think you'll find there is tons of competition.


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Hopwin wrote:
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This is why recessions are a good thing. Good, strong companies, buy up the dead weight, or the dead weight goes out of business. It opens up the market for new businesses.

Also, too much competition is very bad for the economy, as it drives prices down too low. It's self correcting though, low prices will drive some of them out of business.

Also, Hopwin, if you're right and low competition drives prices up, guess what will happen? More people will get into the business to get some of that money. That will drive prices back down.

All is well.

This model doesn't seem to be standing up to the test of Walmart.


And Wal-Mart isn't exactly known for driving prices up.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
This is why recessions are a good thing. Good, strong companies, buy up the dead weight, or the dead weight goes out of business. It opens up the market for new businesses.

Also, too much competition is very bad for the economy, as it drives prices down too low. It's self correcting though, low prices will drive some of them out of business.

Also, Hopwin, if you're right and low competition drives prices up, guess what will happen? More people will get into the business to get some of that money. That will drive prices back down.

All is well.

This model doesn't seem to be standing up to the test of Walmart.


And Wal-Mart isn't exactly known for driving prices up.


They also aren't known for having the highest quality goods. As a consumer if my only option was Walmart I would be sorely disappointed, fortunately we don't have a Super Walmart grocery store around here to kill off the other stores.

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And Wal-Mart isn't exactly known for driving prices up.


They also aren't known for having the highest quality goods. As a consumer if my only option was Walmart I would be sorely disappointed, fortunately we don't have a Super Walmart grocery store around here to kill off the other stores.


So what? Aside from the fact that Wal Mart caries mostly the same goods any other store would carry anyhow, first you were complaining about price fixing. You're moving the goalposts here, now it's quality goods.

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And Wal-Mart isn't exactly known for driving prices up.


They also aren't known for having the highest quality goods. As a consumer if my only option was Walmart I would be sorely disappointed, fortunately we don't have a Super Walmart grocery store around here to kill off the other stores.


So what? Aside from the fact that Wal Mart caries mostly the same goods any other store would carry anyhow, first you were complaining about price fixing. You're moving the goalposts here, now it's quality goods.


My complaint is actually many things, first less companies means less jobs in general and those that remain pay less because workers have no where else to go. Second, less competition means subpar goods or inflated prices (sometimes both). Third, less competition means a smaller selection of goods available. Fourth, less companies means more vacant properties which depresses the commercial real estate market.

Maybe I am willfully ignorant but I don't see any boon to consumers any where in any of this.

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Maybe I am willfully ignorant but I don't see any boon to consumers any where in any of this.


That's because there isn't.

Arathain would be right about strong companies consuming or replacing weak ones in times of recession if it weren't for the fact that our government is subsidizing one or the other (depending on the situation), tipping the scale. Recession-based closure of business, or merger of business, being a "good thing" requires a free-market or lightly-regulated market, which we don't have.

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Hopwin wrote:
My complaint is actually many things, first less companies means less jobs in general and those that remain pay less because workers have no where else to go. Second, less competition means subpar goods or inflated prices (sometimes both). Third, less competition means a smaller selection of goods available. Fourth, less companies means more vacant properties which depresses the commercial real estate market.

Maybe I am willfully ignorant but I don't see any boon to consumers any where in any of this.


Arathain already pointed out that fewer companies means others can come in and offer competition.

Moreover, more companies is not necessarily more competition and fewer is not necessarily less, nor does it necessarily result in subpar goods (retail companies rarely manufacture goods) nor does it necessarily mean less selection as again, one company can carry more than one make of the same item. It does not necessarily mean less jobs since the remaining companies have more options for expansion, nor does it necessarily mean lower wages since they are still competing with each other.

As for real estate, other buisnesses can move into vacant buildings.

You seem to think that a consolidation of buisnesses now means some sort of static monopoly among those remaining, which is far fromt he case.

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Arathain already pointed out that fewer companies means others can come in and offer competition.

Moreover, more companies is not necessarily more competition and fewer is not necessarily less, nor does it necessarily result in subpar goods (retail companies rarely manufacture goods) nor does it necessarily mean less selection as again, one company can carry more than one make of the same item.


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I can't be the only one who has actually been to a number of small towns where WalMart does indeed have a monopoly on a number of goods. (sporting goods, toys, music, electronics, etc.). But the real problem is it's monopsony power. WalMart can dictate what a company produces, what it will sell for, where else they can sell the product, what the packaging should look like, how it will ship, and even what software they use to track the shipping.


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It does not necessarily mean less jobs since the remaining companies have more options for expansion, nor does it necessarily mean lower wages since they are still competing with each other.


If you close a Circuit City next door to a Best Buy then not only do you lose the jobs in the Circuit City but you also lose all the jobs that supported that store: admin, management, supply-chain implications, etc.

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As for real estate, other businesses can move into vacant buildings.


If it were that simple then there would be no vacant storefronts anywhere.

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You seem to think that a consolidation of businesses now means some sort of static monopoly among those remaining, which is far from the case.


At some point an industry giant has such an advantage in terms of economies of scale that small business can no longer move into the market as the entry cost rises geometrically.

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[quote=http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/07/wal-mart_and_health_insurance.php]I can't be the only one who has actually been to a number of small towns where WalMart does indeed have a monopoly on a number of goods. (sporting goods, toys, music, electronics, etc.). But the real problem is it's monopsony power. WalMart can dictate what a company produces, what it will sell for, where else they can sell the product, what the packaging should look like, how it will ship, and even what software they use to track the shipping.


And that company can choose not to do buisness with wal-mart. If wal-mart abuses this, they will put their suppliers out of buisness. As for small towns, wal-mart puts smaller local shops out of buisnesses because its goods are cheaper.

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If you close a Circuit City next door to a Best Buy then not only do you lose the jobs in the Circuit City but you also lose all the jobs that supported that store: admin, management, supply-chain implications, etc.


And there will now be more customers at Best Buy, resulting in more need for people to serve them.

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As for real estate, other businesses can move into vacant buildings.


If it were that simple then there would be no vacant storefronts anywhere.


I said others can, not that they necessarily will. Obviously some will remain vacant. That's not inherently a problem; it may mean that the buidling was ill-advised in the first place.

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At some point an industry giant has such an advantage in terms of economies of scale that small business can no longer move into the market as the entry cost rises geometrically.


We're not talking about industry; we're talking about commercial retailers. In any case,w e have anti-trust legislation for such eventualities.

The mere reduction in the number of retailers or buisnesses does not mean we're at the point that there's a monopoly.

Again, the situation is never static.

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Can you do me a favor?

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Can you do me a favor?


That sounds ominous, what?

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Can you do me a favor?
That sounds ominous, what?
Please, never quote Megan McArdle as a credible economic source.

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That sounds ominous, what?
Please, never quote Megan McArdle as a credible economic source.

lol sec...

Ok, how about Walmart admitting to price fixing?
http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/news/artic ... ticle=1288

Walmart forcing companies to off-shore work?
http://www.fastcompany.com/welcome.html ... lmart.html

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Wait a minute, a company offering more goods to people at consistently lower prices is a bad thing because more people can spend less money on necessities like food and clothing?

Would you be happier if Walmart constantly raised their prices?

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Walmart doing X would make me happy.

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Wal-Mart is shady not because of the low pay, I have no problem with that. But they do a lot of other underhanded ****. I have issues with the allegations of deceptive hiring practices, like pitching the job based on great full-time benefits and then only actually scheduling the person 39.75 hours per week so they don't qualify. And then hiding this by not making benefits "kick in" until six months employed so they don't even find out they won't be getting health insurance until they've been there six months.


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They are also shady in their dealings with suppliers, asking for their rock bottom lowest price, insisting on checking the manufacturers figures to make sure it is the rock bottom lowest price that allows the manufacturer to remain in business at a miniscule profit, then the next year telling them to lower the price or they'll stop carrying the line.

Several companies have decided to forego the Wal-Mart distribution rather then operate at a loss to keep Wal-Mart happy. Others have gone out of business trying to keep Wal-Mart happy.

Then again, this is hearsay from one of the biggest Wally World bashers I know, I have no site to back it up.

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I dislike many companies that try to force people into part itme only wages but its not something that is Walmart specific.

Hopwin seems to be railing against Walmart for continueing to strive to offer the lowest prices possible to its customers. However I feel that if Walmart strived to offer the highest prices possible to their customers he would complain about that behavior as well.

Whats wrong with ensuring low prices? The voters (consumers) overwhelming support it. If you don't want to contract with Walmart because you don't want them in your books, then don't - as people have already decided not to. Free choice is bad because some people make decisions I don't like? - What?

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I dislike many companies that try to force people into part itme only wages but its not something that is Walmart specific.

Hopwin seems to be railing against Walmart for continueing to strive to offer the lowest prices possible to its customers. However I feel that if Walmart strived to offer the highest prices possible to their customers he would complain about that behavior as well.

Whats wrong with ensuring low prices? The voters (consumers) overwhelming support it. If you don't want to contract with Walmart because you don't want them in your books, then don't - as people have already decided not to. Free choice is bad because some people make decisions I don't like? - What?


Ensuring low-prices at the cost of quality benefits no one. Kohl's does the same thing if you buy a pair of Adidas Sambas from Kohl's they will last about 1 year if you buy them from Adidas directly they last 3+ years (still haven't worn out). You may say my evidence is anecdotal but I worked at Kohl's and we consistently had name brand shoes fall apart and get returned within a month of purchase.

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Except that Walmart shoppers disagree with you every day by continuing to shop at Walmart. It may not be of benefit to you but they obviously disagree.

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Except that Walmart shoppers disagree with you every day by continuing to shop at Walmart. It may not be of benefit to you but they obviously disagree.


And then turn around and ***** about unemployment, rising health care costs and unsafe/defective products from China. I guess alegebra was not their strong suit.

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