The Glade 4.0

He doesn't need to say "in my opinion" to make his argument about the facts, and obviously no one is saying "every cricticism of Obama is racist". Vindi is observing that every cricticism of Obama is met with a charge of racism. He's not attacking an argument at all.



Every cricticism worthy of mention has been, in my observation. I'm not talking about cricticism of minor things like his hairstyle or poor choice of gifts to the Queen of England. I don't know if Vindi is or not.



Which is precisely what's being done now, a lot of jumping up and down and screaming. The cricticism of a potential loophole and failure to close existing ones is perfectly valid.



That's completely absurd. It has to do with the fact that his father is Kenyan and that the Kenyan government claims to have a birth certificate for him. It has nothing to do with him being an "other" or even being black. Your argument indicates that you think people are claiming he's not from this country just because he is black even though even the most virulent KKK member obviosuly understands that being black is unrelated to birth in this country.

This is a strawman. You're saying it's born of racism based on claims that no one has made because they're patently absurd. The only one with even a grain of truth is about Kenya, and you fail to mention the alledgd birth certificate.

Don't waste your time hijacking the thread over the Birth Certificate either. No one has claimed its necessarily a valid one. I don't think anyone here trusts the government of Kenya.



No one has called him "uppity" on the national political stage nor called or depicted him as a monkey. You continue to take fringe lunatics an try to use them as a basis for racism in the cricticism by the mainstream of politics. You have no basis whatsoever to think Joe Wilson would not have shouted at a white President either except your own assumption of racism. It's simply circular argument.

It's just a political tactic to avoid addressing the issues.

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Maybe now you understand how convincing I find your positions.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Plenty of Republican politicians have come out in support of the people who did that. They have embraced the Tea Party protesters with open arms, and that includes all the racist imagery and sloganing, the screaming and hate speech, and all the nasty things that movement has done.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Who are these Republicans, where did they embrace any of these people with "open arms" (that term is so vague it could mean almost anything) and what racist imagery and sloganing are you referring to? While you're at it, how are Tea Partys in any way related to racial issues?

I'd like to see some evidence and linkage please, not just your assertion. I saw the assertion in the above post; repeating yourself won't convince me of anything.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

This post lists the elected representatives that are a part of the movement. Vitter sponsored a bill to honor the protests.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Sorry, but that's a biased website with a political agenda. Not acceptable.

In any case, I don't see any evidence of any racism, nor any reason to think endorsement of Tea Partys is anything but good.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

We've gone over this. You are using the fact that fringe groups are attaching themselves to legitimate groups as a way to dismiss them so you won't have to actually listen to their real concerns on the issue. It's all the left has now.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Its kind of stunning. A few racist nutjobs attend an open teaparty protest. That then somehow taints all who attended. Then even further that taints all who supported the teaparty movement with the racist label.

I'm still confused about the black people that attended. Are they racist against other blacks?

No, they're just Uncle Tom and whitewashed.

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The Dude abides.

Wait a second. The tea party movement *is* a fringe movement. There aren't fringe movements just showing up and raining on their parade. The movement itself is screaming and cheering on the birthers, the racists, and the people calling for secession and revolution. The strongest theme in the movement is it's sincere devotion to just about any conspiracy theory that finds itself on a sign.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

*sigh*

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

There's no good reason to think any of this is the case.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Sure there is: Kos said so.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

I said GOOD reason.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

General Oral Obsession with Democrats?

How is "racist" a political movement?

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

It's a word scramble. You see the word "racist" and Monty can use it to spell Republican, Conservative, Rush Limbaugh, or the name of whoever is disagreeing with Obama or him at the time.

He's a motherhumper at Scrabble!

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Doesn't that disempower the word? Funny, that.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

This demonstrates you intentionally blind yourself to the reality of situation or you really just have no idea what's going on.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Wait, so if person A supports a cause, and so does person B - then person A also agrees with everything person B does?

So if I support the tea party protests, I support everything all the supporters say?

Be careful, because if your answer is yes, I can quite easily show you how Obama is a terrorist, racist against whites, racist against blacks, racist against latinos, loves latinos, is pro-gun, anti-gun, pro-abortion, anti-abortion, and probably much more.