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Beef Pasties!

Original Pasty
3 c. flour
1 1/2 sticks butter (cold and cut into bits)
1 1/2 tsp. salt
6 tbsp. water

In a large bowl, combine flour, butter and salt. Blend ingredients until well combined and add water, one tablespoon at a time to form a dough. Toss mixture until it forms a ball. Kneed dough lightly against a smooth surface with heel of the hand to distribute fat evenly. Form into a ball, dust with flour, wrap in wax paper and chill for 30 minutes.

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1 lb. round steak, coarsely ground
1 lb. boneless pork loin, coarsely ground
5 carrots, chopped
2 lg. onions, chopped
2 potatoes, peeled and chopped
1/2 c. rutabaga, chopped (can substitute turnip)
2 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. pepper

Combine all ingredients in large bowl. Divide the dough into 6 pieces, and roll one of the pieces into a 10-inch round on a lightly floured surface. Put 1 1/2 cups of filling on half of the round. Moisten the edges and fold the unfilled half over the filling to enclose it. Pinch the edges together to seal them and crimp them decoratively with a fork. Transfer pasty to lightly buttered baking sheet and cut several slits in the top. Roll out and fill the remaining dough in the same manner. Bake in a preheated 350 degree oven for 30 minutes. Put 1 tsp. butter through a slit in each pasty and continue baking for 30 minutes more. Remove from oven, cover with a damp tea towel, cool for 15 minutes.


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I will be making these this weekend ;)

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Thanks, Micheal! My mom lives down in that direction, I'm gonna have to take her over there.

See, we can get anything in LA!

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I think I'm gonna leave out the turnip though.

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Seafood. Gloriously fresh seafood.

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Turnips are cool Mus, just another root vegetable. Any particular reason you are hesitant there?

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Seafood. Gloriously fresh seafood.


A long time ago I would occasionally buy shellfish on the dock in San Francisco.

Don't live near there anymore and with the way the health laws have gone I'm not sure they are allowed to do that anymore.

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Turnips are cool Mus, just another root vegetable. Any particular reason you are hesitant there?


I dunno... purple food worries me.

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Micheal wrote:
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Seafood. Gloriously fresh seafood.


A long time ago I would occasionally buy shellfish on the dock in San Francisco.

Don't live near there anymore and with the way the health laws have gone I'm not sure they are allowed to do that anymore.


You can still do that here.

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Micheal wrote:
Krautburgers are hamburgers with sauerkraut on them.

Incorrect. A kraut buger is a couple of patties stuffed with kraut and wrapped in pastry. This thing is then baked into oblivion and served with mustard. Not a favourite of mine, but it IS local.



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Ranch beans are pinto beans with some browned hamburger, onions, and keep on adding ingredients until you get the southwestern flavor you prefer.

Kind of. Generally no meat. Cumin, coriander, sometimes cinnamon. Dried pepper flakes. Onion and tomato. it's like a chili bean without the chili.



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Testicles? I have a hard time believing ya'll actually eat those and enjoy them...must be some sort of rite of passage or something.

*shrug* sliced and battered they taste pretty much like any other piece of meat. Why not? I'd rather eat a bull ball raw (have done, dare in culinary school) than catfish in any preparation. I have a heard time believing anyone voluntarily eats that and enjoys it.


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Also, the Cornish pasty rhymes with 'nasty' not 'tasty'. Not sure if it changed when it came stateside.


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I've called hamburgers with sauerkraut krautburgers, do not know your Rocky Mountain version.

Since you are talking about your region I will accept that ranch beans in your area rarely have meat. In my experience in the Central Valley, they usually do, and I've never figured out what all the spices are people used, figured it was usually "to taste".

Tried the RMO ~30 years ago while drunk. Don't remember what they taste like, and wouldn't trust my memory much after all this time anyway.

And yes, the pronunciation of the Cornish pah-stee does not sound like the tiny costume pay-stee.

Generally, if its about food or costume, I mean well, but if Taamar contradicts me, trust her.

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Taamar wrote:
Also, the Cornish pasty rhymes with 'nasty' not 'tasty'. Not sure if it changed when it came stateside.

Oh, yeah, it did. Wanna make a yooper laugh? Walk into the pasty store and ask for something that rhymes with "tasty."

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Looking at that pasty recipe... how does one coarsely grind meat?

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Have your butcher grind it for you or buy a meat grinder and do it yourself with the coarse grind blade.

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awesome, so if I go to a grocery store, they should be able to do it.

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Yep, they should be able to...if not, you are shopping at the wrong store! :P

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Oh, pastys are awesome. I was introduced to them in Tempe, AZ. They origionated as coal miner food generations ago when the cornish immigrants were working in mines. The idea was that the food was easilly hand held by a firm crust sort of like that of a pizza that protruded from the pocket itself, which otherwise looks like a small calzone. Miners covered in coal dust could hold the pocket by its crust, eat, and then discard the edible handle.

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Oh, pastys are awesome. I was introduced to them in Tempe, AZ. They origionated as coal miner food generations ago when the cornish immigrants were working in mines. The idea was that the food was easilly hand held by a firm crust sort of like that of a pizza that protruded from the pocket itself, which otherwise looks like a small calzone. Miners covered in coal dust could hold the pocket by its crust, eat, and then discard the edible handle.


And we shall soon see if the Müs can make them...

Never made pastry before. The recipe didn't call for enough water in the dough... was too dry and flaky to roll out well. Probably half as much as was actually needed.

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You would be very surprised, Mus, to learn that the water count was actually probably spot on.

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You would be very surprised, Mus, to learn that the water count was actually probably spot on.


At 6 tbsp, it wouldn't adhere together in a ball very well. Much less roll it out into a sheet that didn't tear apart.

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Altitude and humidity levels or lack thereof may affect the moisture level.

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You would be very surprised, Mus, to learn that the water count was actually probably spot on.


At 6 tbsp, it wouldn't adhere together in a ball very well. Much less roll it out into a sheet that didn't tear apart.


More dry crumbly than dry cakey then? You want dry cakey.

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You would be very surprised, Mus, to learn that the water count was actually probably spot on.


At 6 tbsp, it wouldn't adhere together in a ball very well. Much less roll it out into a sheet that didn't tear apart.


More dry crumbly than dry cakey then? You want dry cakey.


Yeah, it was dry dry crumbly. I added some more water, not a lot really, but once it got to like stiff play-doh,
it was golden.

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