The Glade 4.0

Reality is unknowable without perception which is subjective by its nature.

Not to mention the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

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Nope, my perceptions are only good for a meta-reality... and we each have one of those. Separating my perception from the facts ... collapsing the unknown... result in reality. It's what you have left after you remove all opinions. Mostly it's why we let instruments do our measuring for us, because they are less likely to have cognitive bias. Even so, measuring a thing affects a thing, so reality isn't as wide as one might assume.

And, sometimes it has a spoon. Except when it doesn't. Always.

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In time, this too shall pass.

On the contrary, TheRiov, I think the creation of an absolute, self-supporting moral framework is the quintessential corruption of intelligence. The great temptation of intelligence is arrogance, and there can be few things more arrogant than the belief that one's moral framework is infallible and hence deserving of absolute, unswerving devotion. Unfortunately, that's exactly what happens in many cases - people of high intelligence often refuse to accept the possibility that they're wrong, and therefore, they dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as ignorant, stupid, immoral, etc.

That's why I think the defense you're looking for here is humility. Humility allows us to recognize merit in others' views and error in our own, which is an essential step in the search for truth. In short, just as arrogance is the downfall of intelligence, humility is the beginning of wisdom.

We create the inputs and parameters for our instruments to measure things. We are using them qualify that what we expect a result to be is. (head explodes)

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Thats just a statement about or knowlege of an object. Its mass, speed, and position are absolute in reality. Our understanding of those variables need not be precise.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

a fundamental assumption of quantum physics though is that if something is undetermined then it is both

Reality is only things that we can measure.

Rynar is not talking about the limits of our ability to determine or find truth, he is talking about that which is even if humans did not exist and regardless of what we beleive we know.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

This may very well simply be an inelegant solution to a limit of our understanding and not the fundamental truth about the state of quantum interaction.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Exactly. Something may become proven because it is objectively true, something does not become objectively true because it is proven.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

As inapplicable as Relativity or even Newtonian physics (or for that matter, common sense) appear to be at the quantum level, Quantum physics are utterly inapplicable at larger scales.

Quantum superstates haven't been found outside of quantum particles. Let's not pretend Schrodinger's cat has ever been large enough to chase mice.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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True but it was recently observed in structures visible to the human eye. I'll see if I can find the article.

You obviously can't handle the truth.

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In time, this too shall pass.

A more appropriate title to go with he original post would be:

Half-baked Thought: The curse of Ego.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

implied insult aside, it isn't ego to acknowledge superior abilities, any more than its low self esteem to acknowlege lesser abilities. Just maintaining a realistic assessment of ones abilities.

I think he might have meant ego with a big E as in the Ego, ID and Super-ID.

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Super-Ego, actually, not Super-Id

The real curse of intelligence is this: the ability to see and understand its own limits.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Lol, would perceiving insults where there are none be a superior ability, or a lesser ability?



I guess Hopwin isn't letting his id run his ego...

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

No. Just an unfortunate aspect of liberalism.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get me.

Morning Ralph, good to see you. Yeah, subject never left the house last night. Ooh, Dunkin' Donuts? I'll take a maple bar, thanks.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Nope, just means you're paranoid, another thing Freud equates with rebelling against the ego.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko