Elmarnieh wrote:
There isn't a contradiction DE. Rules of logic cannot apply when mixing moral systems with different premises. Logic only takes truth as outcome if given truth as input. If you mix inputs it is useless.
Quit moving the goalposts. You were saying that moral systems have to be internally consistent, I pointed out that we determine that consistency with logical rules, and now you're trying (again) to drag the issues of different moral systems into it.
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Second it doesn't contain a false dilemma for a few reasons:
The first is: You know how you prove a false dilemma - you show a third option. You know the only way to show a third option in a moral system is doing it within the rules of that system.
No one is contesting how a false dilemma works.
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The second is: nothing in my morality states that everything is black and white. I only said that I think the use of the gray morality is an excuse for laziness. I never stated that some area include actions that would be immoral in any decision (abortion in the case of rape for example is an instance where no use of force for a specific outcome would be moral).
That's fascinating, but doesn't change the black-and-white fallacy, claims about laziness notwithstanding.
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The only person locked into a black and white, two outcome only view of thinking in this thread is you DE.
Ah yes. I'm somehow locked into a black-and-white way of thinking because... well because elmo says so! Must be that, because I haven't said anything that separates any issue into black-and-white.
Clearly, everyone else reading this will believe you and you'll score lots of rhetorical points.