The Glade 4.0

No **** this forum has no rules, that's why I'm allowed to call him a **** lunatic, and for you to tell us to shut the **** up. We're also allowed to make posts explaining that other posts have no value, when ours don't either!

In closing, you shut the **** up.

Except that mine does. The point of mine? If you think there's a negative environment, stop contributing to it.



Um, eat me?

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

My original point was not that we've got an overly negative environment, it was that sometimes Elmo acts like a nutjob.

What's this "sometimes" bullshit?

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

An unassailable point.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

To be fair, he *does* have occasional moments of lucidity.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Oh, there're plenty of times I agree with him. But have you ever watched a Manson parole hearing? I bet there'll be times you agree with him too.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Really?



I guess i have a problem with reading comprehension, huh.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Guess so.

Better? Don't be so literal.

No, and no.
I can't read parentheticals that aren't there, and I prefer to take things as they are written.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Eventually you will all arrive at my conclusion, but I do make sure that you remember what it is.

I've still yet to see a proposed solution to our steady decline that takes history into account.

When someone has a solution that works you can then call me a lunatic and be taken somewhat seriously. Its easier to yell than to think after all.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Really straining for that title of psychopath-in-chief, aren't we?



That explains your posting habits rather well.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I can see where Elmo is coming from. Ultimately, the threat of death is the one tool we have to remove threats from within our society to our way of Rule of Law. If you disagree, ask yourself if there is no violation of our Constitution you would call for the death of legislators for.

Elmo finds we have surpassed that point. Apparently others haven't. To say Elmo is a lunatic or otherwise simply because you have different thresholds than him is simply to say you think your opinion is more valid than his.

There is not some arbitrary and absolute reference whereby we may say threats of death to our legislators becomes sane rather than insane. There is a point we must decide as a society (speaking in generalities, not specific to the process of Our Constitution), but Elmo is part of that society, and equal one just as you and I are.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

I don't see why the threat of death would be the only viable tool for that.



All lunatics, especially murderous ones, have different thresholds from normal people. That's part of what makes them lunatics. His thresholds are not reasonable; they define any departure from his personal vision of what's acceptable as meriting death. That's what makes them unreasonable; mere policy disagreement somehow merits death. So yes, the less bloodthirsty opinions are superior because they don't call for a society that would de facto have no government or public officials of any kind because anyone taking the job would constantly fear summary execution!



No, there is no arbitrary point. There are, however, plenty of reasonable places and society has not chosen to draw those lines anywhere near where Elmo does. His equality as a member of society does not make his positions just as meritorious or reasonable as anyone else's. Fred Phelps, Charles Manson and the Unibomber are all members of our society too.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

In my opinion, Elmarnieh is an Internet persona. If he acted and talked in real life exactly as he does here he would probably be arrested for conspiracy, investigated every time he purchased a firearm, and probably have undergone court ordered counseling. The swing from adorabalicious to kill them, kill them all, is enough to worry friends and acquaintances, shows a certain degree of bi-polar tendency. If it is a persona, its just role playing. If it were real, if this were not an exaggeration of who he is in real life, he would be an extremely lonely guy as no one would be able to be around him for long. Would you want to maintain contact with someone exactly like Elmarnieh in real life?

He is not the only one, Talya has admitted that she is much more aggressive and outspoken on the Board than she is in real life. I don't think she exaggerates herself as much as Elm does.

Thus my comment on his e-peen. He builds his ego by being a lunatic on the Boards, except when he feels like being sane and human. There are no repercussions in real life. Think of him like one of the kids suppressed by bullies while growing up, then they find a forum where they can say what they are thinking, be as wild and crazy as they like, and they don't get beat up or harassed, other than on this internet. It is a lot easier to be weird on the internet, or for that matter, to be an internet bully, than it is in real life.

None of us are perfect. I certainly have my own barrel of flaws. While I find the aggressive aspect of Elm's persona extremely annoying, and shrink in fear from his cuddilywumptious side, I only fantasize about banning his tusch, I have no plans to actually do it.

Here in Hellfire he can be as outrageously insane as he likes, and I can call him on it and type stuff like this.

I don't like his persona, but it is fairly established here. If he wants to sound like an insane lunatic, that is his business. I'm sure he loves the attention he gets when we respond to his craziness, and I try not to respond with my irritation too much, a battle I seem to be losing lately.

So screw you Elmo, may your e-peen get painfully lodged in your safety while you attempt to assassinate a virtual version of a congressman.

There, I fed the troll.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I disagree, Michael. Strongly, in fact. While you may not agree with Elmo, or where he draws his line in the sand, this is a place where we discuss philosophy, and nothing is out of bounds. His solutions, while occasionally ugly, are time tested and for the most part Elmo is historically accurate in his assesment of things. I think Elmo is quick to anger occasionally, and I think that sometimes he moves to quickly to the simplest solution, forgetting to note that simplest does not always mean best. Truth be told, the transitional period to a new form of government is rapidly and inevitably approaching, but it won't require any kind of proactive violence to achieve. The best bet is to care for oneself and one's own loved ones, and to plan both for what is nessecary to survive the transition, and for what new types of societies will rise from the ashes.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

You are, of course, welcome to your opinion Rynar. We will just have to disagree on this point.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I am comfortable enough in who I am to be who I am at all times and to all people. Don't flatter yourself by assuming I am someone else to others. I am myself. I don't insult you be sheltering you from my opinions and I don't insult anyone else likewise.

Feel free to agree or disagree, but I demand that you think.

I have many friends and my adorabalicious is to those who seek to do me no harm, as it should be as I tend to think and desire all to be friends, however I permit no trespass from others - and why should I submit myself to those who seek to harm me or others?

Yours Micheal is a confused path of those who would rather hide and allow the harm of this course of life to fall on others instead of standing against the current and feeling its fury. You've lived your life for the most part and likely somewhere within your being you yearn the close. I do not, I embrace life and all the struggle it is filled with.

To life!

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

I do think that you believe what you have just posted. I don't believe it.

I do think that you know me less than you think you do.

If i would rather hide, why do you think I confront you? I think your persona is dangerously insane.

I stand by my earlier statements.

I love America even with all its flaws, but I do believe the change that needs to take place must come from within, through legal process. Trying to force the change through violence lowers the country to the level of those we fight against.

I refuse to become a terrorist.

I believe you confuse patriotism with the ends justify the means.

We will never agree on some things, and if you ever reach the point where you think you must use violence to solve the country's problems, I pray that God will soften your heart before you go too far.

I do not seek death, but I have accepted that it comes to all men, myself included. I'd rather be around to bounce great grandchildren on my knee and see the middle of the century. I should not outlive you, but I fear I will.

I just see you coming to a bad end Elmarnieh, doing something Darwin Award stupid trying to fight an imagined violation of your rights.

I hope I'm wrong.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

ROFL......I couldn't resist

It's patriotic to believe that the constitution is more important than your life, and to give up your life for your country is an honor.

It's batpoop idiocy to think the constitution is more important than your neighbors life, and to suggest others die for your philosophy is insane and arrogant.

And, still blaming your parents 'cause they told you there was a Santa means you're a sad little idiot that will never be truly happy.

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In time, this too shall pass.

You must get all worked up when the military advertises itself.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

If Elmo behaved like he does here in RL with any real consistency, he'd get his *** beat and be out of a job in very short order.

Everyone is less "filtered" on the internet, even when we try and stay true to our core opinions and values. That is one of the benefits and problems with the internet.

How does Elmo "behave" here that leads you to these conclusions? All he does here is talk, just like the rest of us. In addition, I would posit that Elmo has brought more new members into this communiy than anyone else I am aware of. Friends of his from RL, including Foamy, Oongah, Uncle Fester, and Hannibal. If what you say is true, then I think we would have some evidence of it.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20