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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:55 am 
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AT our work this is not the case. Mus and I work in Telecom, there are tools we are required to have. But the morons in OUR MIS group have him locked down so tight he cannot even install the needed software. They have been told about this by the Operations Director, as well as the manager of the specific department which Mus is in and they just sit there with their thumbs up their arses.

And it is only new people they are doing this to. Those of us who have been here for a few years are not under the same restrictions. But I personally am not above calling them at **** hours saying "Hey; I need to load this piece of monitoring software from our switch vendor, so I can have the access to the xxx switch to perform maintenance.. you want to come install it for me?"


Oh I agree, security is a double edged sword, I was just posting from the other viewpoint. In general, the more freedom people are given, the more they do to screw it up. (present company excepted) :)

I'm sure if they get enough calls at those hours asking for software, they'll do something about it. Like package it and have it available for you guys to install with a click, like I do.


They're not that smart.

I got a portable HDD yesterday (for a legit work purpose mind you... I offered to make a training video demo thing so we wouldn't have to pay a shitton of cash to an outside vendor but I digress) I plugged it in, and it wouldn't let me access it because I wasn't an admin.

I understand the point of security, and whatnot. I really do. But of the 9 people in the NOC, 4 of them are dell certified techs, and most of us are network engineers or better. Not to mention we have to do our jobs on the things, so we're not very likely to stuff the computers up.

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Have you considered just booting from a usb stick with an image of ubuntu?

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Darkroland wrote:
Oh I agree, security is a double edged sword, I was just posting from the other viewpoint. In general, the more freedom people are given, the more they do to screw it up. (present company excepted) :)

I'm sure if they get enough calls at those hours asking for software, they'll do something about it. Like package it and have it available for you guys to install with a click, like I do.


Not these douchebags... these are the guys that decide the 24 hour group who is known to be slower at 10pm (you know... in our standard maintenance window) does not need access to corporate emails or any of the tools we need that are on the company network at 6pm, when they decide to run their maintenance.. outside of the scheduled maintenance period.

And what makes it even funnier... they give us in the NOC this attitude because our engineering department is smarter than them and they are not afraid to make it known.

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